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Mt. Olive
Township Council Minutes
February 27, 2007
The Regular Public Meeting of the Mount Olive Township
Council was called to Order at 7:32 pm by Council President
Greenbaum with the Pledge of Allegiance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & MOMENT OF REFLECTION for all
those who have and continue to protect our freedoms and
our way of life.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice
of this meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle.
Notice has been posted at the Municipal Building, 204
Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey
and notices were sent to those requesting the same.
ROLL CALL Present: Mr. Buell, Mr. Rattner, Mrs. Labow,
Mr. Tepper,
Mr. Biondi, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Greenbaum
Absent: None
Also Present: David Scapicchio, Mayor; William Sohl,
Business Administrator;
John Dorsey, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk
President Greenbaum: I would also like to have the record
reflect that we have several students here this evening
from St. Michaels in Netcong - Lucas Milone, Alexia Milone,
Nichole Kelso and Angelica Parisi. We welcome you as members
here. We are hopeful that you bring whatever lessons you
learn here tonight back to the other students at St. Michaels.
I would also like to welcome, I know that there are a lot
of employees of the Mount Olive Township School District
here tonight regarding the school bussing issue. I know
it was an issue that was discussed last night at the School
Board meeting. I was filled in on the issue by Councilman
Buell, as I believe most of the other Council people sitting
up here, was filled in on the discussions that had happened
last night. Rather than keep you here for the entire meeting,
I know that some of you have things that you would like
to say. We will deal with the issue right up front so that
you can get onto other issues that you have that are more
pressing or you are welcome to stay. Let me start by giving
you some background. I don’t know exactly what information
was imparted last night but I think you need to know a
couple of important facts. Number one, the Town Council
makes no decisions whatsoever with regard to how the school
system is run, none, zero. If the School Board decides
that it is in the best interest of the school system to
outsource any particular activity or service that the school
district provides, that is solely a decision made the School
Board, not the Town Council. I think to best understand
how this issue came to be and where it is going I will
give you some history in terms of how this particular issue
came to rise and where it is likely to go from my perspective.
As you know, over the past couple of years the School Budget
has been defeated. When a School Budget is defeated it
comes to the Town Council. The Town Council makes a recommendation
to the School Board in terms of a number that it believes
should be cut out of the School Budget. It doesn’t
make specific recommendations or requirements as to how
the School Board should get to that particular number.
In other words when the School Budget goes down, we have
21 one days to look at the School Budget which is a very
small period of time to go through an extensive budget.
We hire an auditor who looks at different things, line
items to see how things may have changed from this year
to last. We don’t really get into the nuts and bolts
of how the School Board operates the school system. We
just don’t have the time, nor are we the group of
people that are given the power or the ability or the responsibility
for how to educate our children and what services related
to that education are to be imparted to the taxpayers.
Last year when the budget went down, we cut close to or
a little bit over three quarters of a million dollars out
of the budget. A lot of it dealt with not paving the entire
bus parking garage, doing it in steps and looking at teacher
attrition dollars. In other words a higher paid teacher
left the school system and new teachers were being brought
in at a lower rate. So therefore, there was actually less
dollars that were needed. We always look to things which
will not affect the educational aspects of our children’s
participation. One of the things which the School Budget
Committee, which is a subcommittee of this Council made
up of three Councilmembers and I believe there were five
residents of the Township, wanted the School Board to look
at was outsourcing, gave no direction to the School Board
in terms of this is what we want you to do. We simply said,
take a look at the issue, as is our job up here to look
at, well, are there ways that we can do things better?
Are there cheaper ways, and I know it affects each one
of you personally, it affects you personally, it is your
livelihood, I understand that. By the same token, let’s
assume as a taxpayer in Mount Olive leaving all other issues
aside we can save, and I am just using a hypothetical number,
$2 million by outsourcing. I am not saying that that is
a possibility, I just picked that number out of the air.
Let’s assume a number like that came in and all of
a sudden we looked at it and said, this is something that
we have to examine, we think, as a School Board. What are
the positives and the negatives of outsourcing? Do we want
people who aren’t employed by our school system driving
our kids? There are a lot of factors which are not monetarily
quantifiable. We understand that but the direction was
let’s take a look at it, let’s study it. It
wasn’t just transportation. It was janitorial, it
was food services. We did the same thing sitting up here
a number of years ago, and I know this came up. We looked
at sanitation. Can we save money if we had an outside company
doing our sanitation? There were a number of different
factors. If we outsource sanitation, who is going to clear
the snow from the roads because it’s the same group
of people and how do we compensate?
President Greenbaum (Cont’d): Ultimately the decision
was made that there was no real benefit to outsourcing
sanitation. I don’t know where the School Board’s
examination has gone to date. I don’t know. I haven’t
been privy to that. I just wanted to make sure, as did
the rest of Council, that that examination was done. We
don’t tell them how to go with that information,
we just want to see. If they came back and said you know
what, whatever money we can save is not worth the negative
impact of all of the other factors because it’s not
really a lot of money we can save. So I understand that
it came up last night with regard to the transportation
issue. Again, we are not the ones who make that decision
and if that information was imparted to you last night,
or that we are requiring the Township to go out and outsource,
that’s not accurate. We simply said you know what,
if the School Budget goes down again and you haven’t
looked at this issue because we thought this is at least
some area that you could look at. As I said we get the
budget with 21 days to decide. There is no way you can
do an adequate study with 21 days to actually take a look
at all of the issues that are involved with transportation
and janitorial. I guess the message that I have for you
is that we are doing our job up here by saying you know
what, if the School Budget goes down, we would like you
to look at these areas and come back and tell us why transportation
needs to remain as an employment position within the Township
rather than an outsource position and you know what, if
in fact they do that study and they come back and they
say this is the way it is, I don’t think there is
a person sitting up here that would say you know what we
demand that you do it because if it doesn’t make
sense, nor could we demand it because we don’t tell
them how to spend their money. We cut a certain pot of
money, or at least recommend. If the School Board says
you know what, we don’t agree with you, they take
it to the State and the State decides what the ultimate
reduction in the budget is. Ultimately, if the School Budget
passes, it doesn’t come to Council at all. Again,
I think from speaking to Mr. Buell you may have been given
some information which was not 100 percent accurate. Yes,
it is true that we wanted the School Board to examine a
number of different areas. Yes, we all understand that
money is not the end all, especially when you are dealing
with the health and safety of our kids and you know what,
that’s all got to be put on the table. Until I see
the study, if they don’t do the study, then I am
left basically dancing in the dark when the time comes.
I don’t know if that answers all of your questions.
As I said, we are not the group that ultimately makes that
decision. Even if we told them that we think it should
be outsourced, they don’t have to do it.
From the audience: So it is being thrown back to the Board
again.
President Greenbaum: Anything having to do with the School
Board, is a school issue. We don’t deal with school
issues unless the budget goes down. The only issue that
we do deal with once the budget goes down is to cut dollars,
to recommend a cut in dollars. Now if we came back and
said you know what, we believe that there should be, instead
of $750,000 which is a big pot of money, if you look at
what Councils do generally. If we said $6 million out of
your budget, the School Board would come back and say you’re
crazy, we are not taking it, and we are going to the State.
Again, we may make a recommendation, we think you can go
here, in other words when we cut $250,000 out of the repaving
out of the second portion of the parking lot, the School
Board could have said, you know what? We’ll accept
the cut and then reallocate the money and pave the parking
lot. Whatever decision we make is a dollar decision. It’s
not how to use the assets ultimately that you have to allocate.
So I don’t think there is a person up here who has
said, we believe strongly that transportation should be
outsourced because we don’t have the information.
We don’t know. So if the School Board gave you that
impression, I think you need to go back to the School Board
and say we spoke to the Council and they just wanted you
to study it. I would like to see the number and don’t
get me wrong, if the number came back and clearly outweighed
the benefits of having employees do the work, I would be
the first one sitting up here saying you know what, as
an elected official I think it’s in the best interest
of the Township to go on an outsource basis. I don’t
want to give you any false information at all. I assume
a lot of you are taxpayers….I will get to you in
a second. You are going to have to come up to the podium.
Inaudible
President Greenbaum: I’ll give everyone an opportunity
to speak but I really don’t want to hear repetitive
comments because we have a long meeting. If you have something
to say, by all means I want you to say it. Before I turn
it over to the audience I don’t know if anyone else
up here on Council has anything that they want to say?
Why don’t you come up to the podium. You have to
state your name and address so it ends up in the record.
Cathy Tencza, Lehigh Street, Budd Lake: Is this working?
President Greenbaum: Pull it down.
Mrs. Tencza: Okay, how about now?
President Greenbaum: How are the girls doing?
Mrs. Tencza: They’re getting big.
President Greenbaum: Yes, I am sure.
Mrs. Tencza: Freshman in high school and they survived
it, grades are good, knock on wood.
Mayor Scapicchio: Keep knocking.
Mrs. Tencza: Yes, I know. I think we understand. We understand
what you are saying. We understood last night what was
going on. I don’t think that there were any false
impressions. I want to make that clear. Mr. Buell didn’t
give us any false information. We do know it is about numbers
and we do know that there is an obligation both by this
Council and by the School Board to make the cuts necessary
to get the budget passed. We know that. What I asked the
School Board last night was to please allow an opportunity
for other people, me being one of them, to take a look
at those numbers because some times it’s not always
about numbers. You can get creative and find different
solutions to problems.
President Greenbaum: I agree wholeheartedly. You need
the information and then it is a question of getting as
many people to give you their impression of the information
so that you can form a consensus.
Mrs. Tencza: I agree and I just want to thank you. I know
that most of you, if not all of you, have children that
are either currently being driven or have been driven or
whatever and most of these people here have done that.
We know what happens with a private company and we also
don’t want to see impact to this town, myself personally,
because I live here. I don’t want to see Parsippany
happen. I am glad to hear that you are considering long
term because I was a little worried that we were going
to put the cart before the horse just to get through this
year and forget about next year. You can’t do that,
that’s irresponsible. So I am glad to hear that that’s
not going to happen. You know just like some doors that
haven’t been opened in the past, to be opened if
you will.
President Greenbaum: Particularly with transportation,
a long term approach, a long term view is required because
once you go down the road of privatizing, outsourcing transportation
you have gone down that road permanently.
Mrs. Tencza: Right.
President Greenbaum: I mean it is even different than
janitorial or our food services because of just the nature
of the assets and the individuals that are involved. We
understand it and again it’s not a decision ultimately
that’s made by this Board. It’s a decision
which is made by the Board of Education. The Board of Education,
despite the fact that we raise the issue that said we would
like you to examine this issue, the Board of Education
may ultimately come back and say you know what, we have
examined it and we believe that it is in the Township’s
best interest to go that route and if they do that, it’s
not this Council that has the ability to overrule what
the Board of Education decides with respect to how they
are going to run the school system. It is, I don’t
want to say your fight, but the input really needs to be
at the Board of Education level so that whatever your interests
are, are included in the budget which is presented for
a vote.
Mrs. Tencza: That is what I requested last night, it was
basically told, wait until March 5th.
President Greenbaum: Well, I really can’t help you
with that because…
Mrs. Tencza: No we are not asking to help, we understand
that.
President Greenbaum: We don’t formulate the school
budget and ultimately if it’s not in the School Budget
that’s a decision that the Board of Education made
even without any input from the Council and if it’s
in the budget again that’s the same decision that
the Board of Education made with respect to the Council
having no involvement in the decision.
Mrs. Tencza: I just wanted to again reiterate, thank you
for telling us that you are going to include long term
impact. I don’t think that that is a priority at
the School Board level. It needs to be because it exists.
It needs to be looked at.
President Greenbaum: I will tell you what I am even going
to do, to the extent that the School Budget goes down,
first of all if it doesn’t…if outsourcing of
the transportation is included in the School Budget, then
my feeling is that ultimately the transportation will be
outsourced. In other words, if it’s in the School
Budget that they are going to outsource, then it will be
outsourced whether or not the School Budget goes up or
down. If it is not included in the Budget, outsourcing,
and the School Budget goes down and the outsourcing of
transportation is going to be an issue, I will most certainly
put a representative member of the transportation group
on the Council Budget Committee reviewing the School Budget
so that all of the issues can be addressed appropriately.
Mrs. Tencza: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Anyone else? Yes Mayor.
Mayor Scapicchio: Mr. President, I would just like to
know what the Board of Education, for information for myself,
what the Board of Education said to these employees that
brought them out to this meeting tonight.
Mr. Tepper: In force.
Mayor Scapicchio: In force.
Mrs. Tencza: Not so much the Board of Education. We knew
nothing about what was going on, absolutely nothing.
On a supervisory level, we were not notified, rumors
were flying and people got scared and that is why everybody
came out last night to the Board meeting. The Board members
did say, yes we are looking at it, no it’s not
a definitive we just basically passed…we gave permission
to go out and get bids for information, not to bid out
routes. There is a difference. It was noninformation
that was the problem, not so much information. It was
noninformation. I think we made that clear last night
and hopefully Dr. Lamonte will remedy that because that’s
who Mr. Todd reports to so.
Mr. Buell: Basically, Dave, what happened was and I was
unaware of this also, the Board had a Resolution on their
calendar last night. It said, authorize the Administration
to solicit bids for partial outsourcing of transportation
routes. The Board indicated when that was brought up and
it was questioned from the floor at the appropriate time
by the audience that this was a request or a requirement
by the Town Council that they look at this issue as well
as outsourcing of janitorial and also cafeteria services.
The inference was that we required them to do this and
that they personally were not totally in favor of this
but this is something they felt they had to because we
had requested it as a Council.
President Greenbaum: I am not sure that that’s not
accurate either because the Council did ask for information.
You know what, it’s impossible to compare apples
to apples without having the first apple to start with.
So you know what, the fact that the School Board is going
out for information, I think, is a good thing because otherwise
we can’t make the appropriate comparison. At this
stage, I think, as it has been described to me that it’s
accurate that the Council was requesting that the information
be compiled. Is there anyone else that would like to discuss
this issue? Thank you very much. We will take a two minute
recess. Alright, I am calling the meeting back to order.
We are up to Resolution # 1 entitled:
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Commemorating 35 Years of Service to Mount
Olive by Councilman John Biondi.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Tepper, do you want to move it?
Mr. Tepper: Yes, Mr. President. It is my honor to move
the Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive commemorating John for his 35 years of service
to the Town.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded. I
am going to open it up to the public after I read the resolution.
RESOLUTION OF THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL OF THE
TOWNSHIP OF MOUNT OLIVE COMMEMORATING 35 YEARS OF SERVICE
TO MOUNT OLIVE BY COUNCILMAN JOHN BIONDI
WHEREAS, John Biondi and his family took up their residence
at 27 Cloverhill Drive, Flanders approximately thirty years
ago; and
WHEREAS, almost upon Councilman Biondi’s arrival
in Mount Olive, he committed himself to public service
on behalf of the Township, but more particularly on behalf
of the residents of the Township; and
WHEREAS, his public service has included almost every
type of civil activity beginning with a coach in the Little
League Baseball Leagues; president and coach of the Midget
Football Team and coach of the boys and girls basketball
teams; he has been active as a member of and past president
of the Mount Olive Lions Club for the last thirty years;
he served as an officer of the Mount Olive Republican Club
and he also served on the Shade Tree Commission from 1976
through 1977; on the Drug Abuse Council from 1978 to the
end of 1980; on the Recreation Advisory Committee from
1980 through 1981 and was most recently elected to fill
an unexpired term on the Township Council on November 7th
of 2006; and
WHEREAS, upon becoming a member of the Township Council
he has been an active member; he has expressed his views
on behalf of the citizens of Mount Olive and has very actively
participated in the business of municipal government; and
WHEREAS, Councilman Biondi has recently advised that
because of family considerations he will be forced to resign
his position effective on March 1, 2007; and
WHEREAS, the Mayor and Township Council are saddened
by his resignation because of his contributions to the
citizens of Mount Olive and because he is a fun person
to have and to work with in connection with municipal government;
and
WHEREAS, the Mayor and Township Council wish to wish
him well in his retirement as he will be sorely missed
in the many positions that he has filled as a resident
of Mount Olive Township and as a Councilman.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris,
State of New Jersey, that it does hereby commemorate 35
years of civic and public service of Councilman John Biondi
has given to the Township of Mount Olive; its residents
and the municipal government of Mount Olive Township; be
it further resolved that the Mayor and the Township Council
wish him well in retirement.
Clapping…
President Greenbaum: One of the great things about being
Council President John. Is that I get to sign these kinds
of things and it is a great honor of mine and wherever
you decide to hang this, whether it is in your house here
or in Florida, that my name will forever be affixed to
this particular Resolution. Congratulations.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you very much, Mr. President. This is
really a very bitter sweet occasion. I have enjoyed my
time on the Council tremendously and enjoyed serving the
people of Mount Olive for the last 30 odd years. I especially
enjoyed the people on the Council. They made it easy for
me to do my job up here. They will be sorely missed but
family considerations have to come first. I wish everybody
up here godspeed. Good luck and let’s have another
good election, a clean election, and I wish the people
of Mount Olive all the best for the rest of their lives.
Thank you very much.
President Greenbaum: At this point in time I would like
to call Dick Kamin up to the podium who has another presentation.
Mr. Kamin: It’s reality check time. I have pictures
from the archives. Can you name all four people in there?
Mr. Biondi: I bet I can.
Mr. Kamin: This might be a test even for you John.
Mr. Kamin: I am here on somewhat of an actual official
capacity. First of all it is my pleasure to be here. My
family and the Biondi’s have been friends since the
first years we both moved into Mount Olive. John has been
a part of my political life and I a part of his and so
it has been an honor and tonight on behalf of Senator Bob
Littell, Assemblywoman Allison McHose and especially Guy
Gregg, Assemblyman, who if he didn’t have another
commitment would be here to personally present this Resolution.
It’s a Resolution from the Senate and the General
Assembly, so yes, you have one signed by the Council President
but this one is signed by the former Governor, Richard
Cody the Senate President, and also by Joseph J. Roberts
the Speaker of the General Assembly. I normally don’t
read resolutions. This one is pretty well written so I
am going to read some parts of it.
WHEREAS, John J. Biondi a highly esteemed member of this Garden State Community
is being honored and saluted upon this occasion of his conclusion of a distinguished
tenure as a member of the Mount Olive Council that has exemplified the true
meaning of selfless public service; and
WHEREAS, his extensive record of inspired and effective
civic leadership has earned John J. Biondi the deepest
respect and admiration of the citizens of this community;
and
WHEREAS, his exemplary dedication and steadfast commitment
to the people of Mount Olive has also included his services
as a member of the Shade tree Commission, the Drug Abuse
Council and the Recreation Advisory Committee; and
WHEREAS, in addition John J. Biondi gives generously
of his time and efforts to a myriad of community endeavors
including as a Coach of Little League, Midget Football,
Little League Baseball, boys and girls Basketball and also
as a member of the Mount Olive Township Republican Club
and the Mount Olive Lyons Club; and
WHEREAS, John J. Biondi has been upheld in his life’s
efforts by his wife of 41 years, Ann, and his three children
and he takes a special delight in his grandchildren; and
WHEREAS, John J. Biondi has continually demonstrated
an uncommon measure of public spiritedness and in so doing
has provided a standard of excellence in public service
towards which others might strive; and
WHEREAS, it is altogether proper and fitting for the
New Jersey Legislature to recognize John J. Biondi and
to salute him as an individual of outstanding character
and exceptional determination; and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Senate and General
Assembly of the State of New Jersey that this Legislature
hereby honors John J. Biondi and pays tribute to his meritorious
history of service and commitment to the citizens of Mount
Olive Township and extends its sincerest and best wishes
for his continued happiness and success.
Mr. Kamin: John, congratulations.
Clapping…
President Greenbaum: It may be signed by former Governor
Cody but it’s not on a nice piece of wood like ours
is.
Mr. Kamin: The answers to that picture as you are passing
it down, it’s a picture of former County Chairman
Tom Branch…
Mr. Biondi: Steve Bruder, Dick Kamin and myself.
Mr. Kamin: I didn’t think anyone would get the Steve
Bruder part, the former member of the Council, probably
you tipped everybody off.
Mr. Biondi: I couldn’t miss it.
President Greenbaum: I knew it too because it’s
written on the back of the picture.
Mr. Kamin: I salute you John.
Mr. Biondi: Those of you who don’t know Dick Kamin,
he has been a part of my life from the beginning in Mount
Olive. A guy you could always count on. I ran his first
campaign, the only one he ever lost and we are still friends
and that tells you a lot about Dick Kamin. Dick, I love
you. Ann, thanks and by the way Dick it’s 43 years.
Thanks Russell.
Mr. Tepper: You’re welcome.
President Greenbaum: Mayor did you have something?
Mayor Scapicchio: Mr. President, I would just like to say
in the four months that I have been here it has been
my pleasure to work with John. On Tuesday evenings when
I am in that office, he always pokes his head in there
and smiles and says, hi Mr. Mayor, how’s everything
going. I have talked to him on numerous occasions on
a lot of different issues and I have always appreciated
John’s honesty, his cooperation and his willingness
to listen and work with myself and Bill. I want an invitation
to see his tie collection because I have never seen John
wear the same tie twice.
Mr. Biondi: Any time you want, my house is always open
to you David.
Mr. Scapicchio: How do you store them? John, thank you.
I wish you and your family and the issues that you need
to deal with, my heart and my prayers go out to you and
your family.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you David and continued success up here
for these people.
Mayor Scapicchio: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Anyone from the audience who wishes
to be heard on this particular resolution? Seeing none.
Any other Councilmembers?
Mr. Perkins: Thank you, Mr. President. John, I couldn’t
let this go by without having a couple good words to say
for you. I didn’t get to know you much in my twenty
years here until you actually became a running mate of
mine. John I have always trusted and listened to what you
had to say to me. You treated me as an equal. We ran together.
We were the two top vote getters which I was surprised
that more people liked me than they did you….
Mr. Biondi: Only eight more.
Mr. Perkins: Only eight more and those eight people you
thought you could trust. I am going to miss your help,
your support and most of all I am going to miss your being
up here. John, good luck to you and take care of your family,
God Bless.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you very much.
President Greenbaum: Ray, I just wanted to correct something
that you just said, I am not so sure that people liked
you guys more, they just liked us less.
Mr. Dorsey: I just wanted to say how much my partner and
I have agreed and enjoyed having John Biondi on the Council.
He adds a flavor which I have to tell the rest of you,
you have never been able to add. He adds a certain amount
of drama in the casting of votes and it’s been great
working with him and I am really going to miss him.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you, Counselor.
President Greenbaum: I think I can add that flavor, let
me try. I want you all to share services. I don’t
care this is the way we have to do it.
Mr. Biondi: Counselor, it was a pleasure to work with
you and I don’t care what anyone says, you’re
still the best municipal attorney in Morris County.
Mr. Dorsey: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Roll Call.
Mr. Biondi: Can I vote on myself?
President Greenbaum: Sure.
Mr. Tepper: You can abstain.
Mr. Biondi: I’m not abstaining.
Mrs. Lashway: Did you vote?
Mr. Biondi: Yes, yes.
Mrs. Labow: With a heavy heart, yes.
Mr. Perkins: Regretfully, yes.
ROLL CALL Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Congratulations, best of luck to
you.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you very much. Thank you all.
Lori McGill – Morris Chase sidewalks on Madison
Avenue
President Greenbaum: We are up to Lori McGill discussion
of Morris Chase. Why don’t you come up to the podium?
Discussion of the sidewalks on Madison Avenue related the
Morris Chase. Joel, you may want to move up for this because
we may have some questions for you regarding…
Lori McGill, Madison Avenue: I sent a letter to the Council.
We have been previously heard at the Planning Board and
I am not sure, just like the earlier issue with the school
bus transportation, I am not sure if this is the right
forum either but we had gone to the Planning Board and
we are also here before the Council.
President Greenbaum: Okay, I just want to kind of try
to summarize my understanding of the issue that you brought
here tonight. You are taking the position, I believe on
behalf of a number of residents on Madison Avenue, that
the sidewalks would be more burdensome than any benefit
which would be provided by the sidewalks. After that question
was raised, I raised the question to Mr. Dorsey as to whether
or not the Council has the ability, even if we were so
inclined, to take action to waive the requirement of the
sidewalks in light of the fact that it was a Planning Board
resolution which included the sidewalks. The answer I believe
that Mr. Dorsey gave…and correct me if I am wrong,
John…
Mr. Dorsey: Wait a minute. Lisa gave you an even better
answer. These sidewalks on Madison Avenue are going to
be placed in a right-of-way which the Township owns. I
think on that basis, the Township clearly has the jurisdiction.
Mrs. McGill: I’m sorry I could not hear him.
President Greenbaum: Okay. The answer that Mr. Dorsey
gave, if I could paraphrase, is because the sidewalks are
going to be placed in a right-of-way owned by the Township
that, in fact, the Township Council does have the ability
if it were so inclined to waive the improvement, in other
words, to not have the developer put in the sidewalks.
The one problem that I have sitting up here, first of all,
I am not a huge fan of sidewalks for the same reasons you
have addressed in your letter. I have a sidewalk in front
of my house. There is some benefit obviously and there
is some detriment in terms of the requirement to maintain
the sidewalk, snow and ice maintenance of the sidewalk,
to the extent that it is in disrepair. The problem that
I have sitting up here is that the Planning Board doesn’t
have, and I think I speak on behalf of the entire Council
because we did address this issue in our Workshop tangentially,
is that we don’t really know what the benefits and
the detriments are of waiving the requirement at this point
in time because it is really a Planning Board issue to
determine…you know what these sidewalks are put in
because the requirement of having kids picked up at the
intersection of Madison and Mount Olive Road, we don’t
know. This is put in for X, Y and Z reason in terms of
the needs of the development itself. Joel could you come
up for a second? Just so everyone is aware, Joe Kobert
is the attorney for Toll Brothers on the Morris Chase Development.
Joel, assuming, I don’t know that you know the answers
to these questions but assuming that the Town Council or
the Planning Board were to waive the requirement of the
sidewalks on Madison Avenue without requiring Morris Chase
to change their application in any fashion, I would assume
that Morris Chase would have no problem with that decision.
Is that correct?
Mr. Kobert: That is correct. As long as there was no change
in any application or resolution, we would not have a problem
on that.
President Greenbaum: Good and to the extent that we were
to…obviously there is a cost that would be incurred
by Toll Brothers in the installation of the sidewalks and
that cost I assume could be quantified and I assume if
the Township were to come to some resolution, that we would
discuss some agreement in terms of the cost savings and
how both of us could benefit through that cost savings.
Mr. Kobert: You talking to me?
President Greenbaum: Yes.
Mr. Kobert: The answer to that is, I don’t know
the answer to that.
President Greenbaum: I think what I would like to do is
to say that the Town Council is inclined to adopt the recommendation
of the Planning Board on this particular issue. If the
Planning Board were to come back and say, you know we believe
that your argument that the sidewalks are more of a burden
than a benefit, then I think the Town Council would be
so inclined as to move forward. Correct me if I am wrong,
I am only one of seven sitting up here.
Mr. Kobert: If I can interject here?
President Greenbaum: Yes.
Mr. Kobert: Councilman Tepper was at the meeting. One
of the problems that I think they had, and it was discussed
at the Planning Board, was that there was testimony on
the safety issues. Therefore, if they have to… I
am just paraphrasing what went on at the meeting at that
time. If they had to go back into the issue, they would
have to discuss the safety issues and they were concerned.
Again, I refer to Mr. Dorsey about the liability issues
of them not having and then taking them away when you have
a record that there was safety… again, that was just
bandied about and please correct me if I was wrong.
Mr. Tepper: That is very consistent with what was discussed
and the fact that it happened so long ago and so few members
of the Planning Board were still party to the same action,
as to what the reasons were and the fact that there were
no objections at that time. As Mr. Greenbaum has pointed
out, perhaps if it is taken back to the Planning Board
with that set of assumptions, it can be readdressed.
Mr. Kobert: Again, we don’t have a problem as long
as it’s not an application process.
President Greenbaum: I understand what your concern is
and I think just from my limited knowledge of tort immunity,
to the extent that were to waive the requirement, not that
we can’t be sued but we would probably have immunity
for any decision related to an instillation of an improvement
or not. Mr. Dorsey would be better able to answer that
question.
Mr. Buell: One of my concerns is, is that at the Planning
Board meeting the decision… evidently these sidewalks
are in the process of being installed in April. So time
is of the essence if you were to ask the Planning Board
to rereview this issue. Obviously we are talking…
Mr. Tepper: You can address it at the first meeting of
the month which is the 2nd Thursday. It’s not this
week but the week after.
President Greenbaum: I think the decision is that the
Council, according to Mr. Dorsey, the Council can waive
that requirement without the applicant having to go back
and change his application. If the issues were fully addressed
at the Planning Board level and the decision were made
to not install the sidewalks, then it would come back to
Council at that point in time to ultimately resolve the
issue.
Mr. Biondi: The tort immunity you’re talking about
protects the Township and also Toll Brothers. Does that
tort immunity stay with the property forever?
Mr. Dorsey: No, Toll Brothers will be out of there. It
is only a matter of time before Toll Brothers is gone.
Mr. Tepper: Okay, then it would be the…
Mr. Dorsey: The sidewalks would fall under the tort immunity
title.
Mr. Biondi: Are the homeowners agreeing to tort immunity
there?
Mr. Dorsey: The homeowners are going to have to give the
Township a release, if the sidewalk is going to run in
front of their homes.
Mr. Biondi: That is what I am saying, if they give you
a release that has to stay with the property forever right?
Mr. Dorsey: Yes, right.
Mr. Biondi: Just something to think about.
President Greenbaum: We will have to talk about that further.
Mr. Rattner: I have been a proponent of sidewalks and
the town has gone after grants to provide sidewalks. I
was the one who proposed the sidewalks on Wolf Road which
I calculate to save us over $1 million over the next ten
years just in bus costs because for the people who live
in the apartments, now there is a safe way of getting to
the school. We don’t have to bus people across the
street like we did in Pershing Estates because Sunset Drive
didn’t have sidewalks. Also, we have been putting
sidewalks in other areas. One place where we missed was,
let’s say a place like Wolf Road. We have people
all summer long walking down from the apartments with strollers
and everything else in travel lanes. The issue I see is
that this development is going to be a fairly large development.
A good portion of the traffic is going to be coming down
that road because if you’re coming from the west,
coming from Hackettstown, Mansfield, Naughright Road, you
know the shopping center. You are not going to drive all
the way up Mount Olive Road to Flanders Road to come back.
You are going to go right in on Madison Avenue. However,
sidewalks by themselves, there are other ways. I don’t
know if this would change anything with the approvals and
whether it can be done as a practical matter but if the
pavement is just widened just a little bit longer and if
we actually define the shoulder, in other words the dividing
line at the edge of the road, it gives a place for safety.
I would imagine if there are people that live on that road,
you are going to be talking about rush hour when anybody
who has kids in those houses are going to have to walk
to the end of the street to be able to catch the bus and
if you are in high school, you know part of the year it
is dark out. Also, I know that municipalities and other
levels of government have immunity from different law suits.
However, we’ve seen the courts coming down now saying,
if there was something that was known and that’s
why I am worried when we hear about testimony that may
be there. We still have to provide a safe spot for people
to walk and I think maybe just by widening the pavement
a little bit then its not a full sidewalk, it doesn’t
have to be shoveled and hopefully the plows would be able
to get down there and we have accomplished the same purpose,
a safe place for people to walk down to the road because
I can imagine there are going to be people in the good
weather and they are going to walk down that road to go
to the Country Store and to go to other areas like that
just like they do in the rest of the town. The County has
a circulation element that they are requesting and everybody
has to have a Master Plan for bike paths and walk-ways
including sidewalks so you don’t have to take your
car. With everything else going on you don’t want
to go counter to that but I think there are other ways
of doing it other than just putting down a side walk. In
a rural area sidewalks don’t really add anything.
I have to agree with that but if we can provide a safe
place for people to walk, all you need is a couple more
feet of pavement and where it is well defined. We are good
to go.
President Greenbaum: That may be a good answer. Russ,
if you would run that by Gene as an alternative.
Mr. Tepper: I will.
President Greenbaum: I would suggest that you take this
back to the Planning Board. I don’t hear any real
opposition to examining the issue. If the Planning Board
comes back with a positive recommendation and perhaps the
solution to the problem is as Mr. Rattner said, perhaps
what you do is just widen the pavement a little and you
put a yellow line that creates an area that is for either
pedestrians or bicyclists which obviously isn’t maintained
in the same fashion as a sidewalk would be, it accomplishes
the same goal. I am sure Toll Brothers would have no problem
with that type of change so long as they didn’t need
to change their application. Again, I guess that is an
issue that will be addressed at the Planning Board level.
Is there anything else?
Mrs. McGill: I believe the requirement that we have seen
in terms of widening the road was that it was going to
be approximately 30 feet wide and it is probably about
15 feet wide now. So with the plan of changes to the street,
the road was going to be about doubled. So just as you
mentioned about widening the pavement, I think it was going
to be about 15 feet wider and that would…you know
that’s to accommodate traffic but it could also accommodate
the pedestrians.
President Greenbaum: Again, I think it is just an engineering
issue, having our engineer look at it and say you know
what, if we just put a yellow line on the side of the road
that’s three feet wide or two and half wide or four
feet wide, whatever it is, that may be the answer to this
particular problem. God knows, we have created a great
burden to the few people that live on Madison Avenue. We
have tried as best we can, through not changing the street
name or numbers, to inconvenience you as little as possible
and I understand the issue.
Mrs. McGill: We appreciate that.
President Greenbaum: I think that we have a direction to
take it back to the Planning Board, that the Council,
if it is so inclined to adopt a recommendation, that
we have been advised by our Attorney that, in fact, the
Council does have the ability to make this change without
requiring the applicant to change their application.
The more I think about it, the more I like Mr. Rattner’s
suggestion in terms of the resolution of this problem.
I wish you the best of luck.
Mrs. McGill: May I just add a few points please?
President Greenbaum: Yes.
Mrs. McGill: There are three residents who are affected
by this, or sets of residents. My husband and I moved in
in 2005 and so we rode around in 2004 earlier to proof
road test it at that time. Another thing I don’t
know if Mr. Culleny is here today, I don’t know if
he is here? He might be possibly just passed the 200 feet
mark where homeowners are notified if there is building
in the area. So it is possible. I talked with Mr. Culleny,
he’s the owner of 13 Mount Olive Road which is the
house on the corner and he seemed to have no prior knowledge
of this. So two out of three homeowners who are on the
street now, did not have the opportunity to protest the
sidewalks earlier. Another thing, I had spoke to Mr. Buell
about…we’ve heard about safety issues and one
concern that we have is that you have this sidewalk going
through the development and its obvious that you need it
there but when you get to Mount Olive Road there’s
no sidewalk there. My husband and I are routine pedestrians,
bicyclist and so on. We are just used to being careful.
Now I know the road can be busier, we understand that part
but once you get to Mount Olive Road you have to show more
caution. Mr. Buell and I had talked about having sidewalks
on this last small stretch compared to the size of the
development it may only be giving the pedestrians an illusion
of safety, that your thinking sidewalks may continue and
then you get to Mount Olive Road there’s no sidewalks
and then you have to be very careful. Perhaps it is better
for the pedestrians to come to this realization, that oops… we
better be careful now on this very small stretch before
you get to Mount Olive Road which is a much busier road.
So those are some other issues that we had, that perhaps
were not in the letter.
President Greenbaum: Thank you very much, I appreciate
it. Russ, what I would like you to do is to… I would
like you to leave here… I assume Lisa has your name
and number?
Mrs. McGill: Yes she does.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Tepper will report back to Lisa
as to when this issue is going to be addressed before the
Planning Board so that you can have adequate notice and
be able to participate at the Planning Board level.
Mrs. McGill: Thank you.
Questions on Bill List? None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
Feb. 13, 2007 PM – All Present except Mr. Perkins
Feb. 13, 2007 CS – All Present except Mr. Perkins
Feb. 20, 2007 WS – All Present
Feb. 20, 2007 CS - All Present
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi do you want move the Minutes
from previous meetings? Get ready you’re going to
be busy from this point on.
Mr. Biondi: I move the Minutes of previous meetings, February
13th Public Meeting, February 13th CS, February 20th Workshop,
February 20th CS.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any discussion,
deletions, additions, corrections? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously with the exception Mr. Perkins
abstained on
February 13th PM and CS.
CORRESPONDENCE
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS / ORGANIZATIONS
1. Letter received February 9, 2007, from the Mt. Olive
Township Historical Society Regarding the request for Quasi-Entity
Status.
RESOLUTIONS / ORDINANCES / CORRESPONDENCE OTHER TOWNS
2. Ordinance received February 12, 2007, from the Township
of Roxbury regarding Land Use.
3. Two Ordinances received February 12, 2007, from the
Township of Chester regarding Land Use.
4. Resolution received February 14, 2007, from the Township
of Parsippany regarding Renewal of the Garden State Preservation
Trust Fund and Petitioning Members of the Morris County
Legislative Delegation to Provide Support for the Renewal
of the Fund.
5. Resolution received February 20, 2007, from the Borough
of Chatham supporting Renewal of the Garden State Preservation
Trust Fund and Petitioning Members of the Morris County
Legislative Delegation to Provide Support for the Renewal
of the Fund.
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
6. Information received February 23, 2007, from the New
Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Pancake
Breakfast.
7. Legislative Bulletin received February 23, 2007, from
the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding
Bills that were enacted as the Public Laws of 2006-2007.
MUA / MSA
8. Meeting schedule received February 12, 2007, from the
Musconetcong Sewerage Authority regarding 2007 meeting
dates.
DOT / DEP / LOI / HIGHLANDS
9. Letter received February 12, 2007, from the State of
New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding
Pre Cancellation Letter for Freshwater Wetlands Letter
of Interpretation – Line Verification Application.
Applicant: Jay-Bob Associates, c/o RD Management LLC. Block
102, Lot 2. (56 Route 46, Budd Lake).
10. Letter received February 12, 2007, from Richard T.
Burke regarding Ziarnowski Variance Application #05-56 – ZBA
Block 3103, Lot 4 (87 Netcong Road, Budd Lake).
11. Notice received February 13, 2007, from NJ Transit
regarding upcoming hearing.
12. Letter received February 20, 2007, from State of New
Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding
Closure Correspondence / Compliance Inspection for Block
5800, Lot 5 (16 Ironia Road)
13. Letter received February 23, 2007, from State of New
Jersey, Department of Transportation regarding Naughright
Road Project.
UTILITIES
14. Fax received February 12, 2007, from Comcast regarding
March Channel Changes.
15. Letter received February 22, 2007, from Comcast regarding
informational breakfast.
MORRIS COUNTY
16. Preliminary Equalization Table received February 23,
20007, from County of Morris regarding the year 2007.
17. Letter received February 23, 2007, from Morris County
Community Development regarding Budd Lake Drainage.
LEGISLATIVE REPRESENATIVES
18. E-mail received February 16, 2007, from Congressman
Frelinghuysen regarding House Debates Iraq Resolution,
and House Passes Bipartisan Small Business Tax Relief Act.
DCA
19. E-mail received February 13, 2007, from Department
of Community Affairs regarding Local Finance Notice 2007,
CY Municipal Information Sheets, CY 2007 Budget Cap, Hurricane
Preparedness Study, Applications for Senior Citizen Property
Tax Relief, State income tax returns, Certification renewals,
Bureau of Boiler and Pressure Vessel Compliance, Fire District
Elections, DCA Bureau of Homeowner Protection Act and the
Environmental Infrastructure Financing Programming.
20. Local Finance Notice received February 20, 2007, from
Department of Community Affairs, Division of Local Government
Services regarding Fees for Marriage and Civil Union Ceremonies.
President Greenbaum: There are 20 pieces of Correspondence
on the Amended Agenda this evening. Does anyone wish to
discuss any particular piece of Correspondence? Seeing
none, we will move on.
ORDINANCE FOR PUBLIC HEARING
President Greenbaum: The first Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #4-2007 entitled:
Ord. #4-2007 An Ordinance of the Township Council of the
Township of Mount Olive to Amend the Salaries of Certain
Non-Union Personnel for the Year 2007.
President Greenbaum: At this point in time I would like
to open it up to the public to anyone who wishes to discuss
this particular Ordinance. Seeing none, I close it to the
public. Mr. Biondi, do you want to move that for approval
please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President I move Ordinance #4-2007 for
approval.
Mr. Tepper: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #4-2007 has passed on second
reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy
of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #5-2007 entitled:
Ord. #5-2007 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
Rescinding Ordinance 36-2006 and Amending Section 4-06 “Meetings” Subsection
E “Conference Meetings.”
President Greenbaum: At this point I will open it up to
the public. Seeing none, I close it to the public. Mr.
Biondi, do you want to move that for approval?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Ordinance #5-2007 for
passage.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #5-2007 has passed on second
reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy
of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #6-2007 entitled:
Ord. #6-2007 Bond Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive,
In the County of Morris, New Jersey Amending Section 3(h)
of Bond Ordinance Numbered #27-2005 Finally Adopted August
9, 2005 in Order to Amend the Description of the Project
Authorized Therein.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone in the public have any
clue what this Ordinance is about? Anyone wish to comment
on Ordinance #6-2007? Mr. Biondi, do you want to move that
for approval please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Ordinance #6-2007 for
final approval.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any
Council discussion? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #6-2007 has passed on second
reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy
of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law.
President Greenbaum: The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #7-2007 entitled:
Ord. #7-2007 Bond Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive,
In the County of Morris, New Jersey Amending Section 3(i)
of Bond Ordinance Numbered #37-2002 Finally Adopted September
24, 2002 in Order to Amend the Description of the Project
Authorized Therein.
President Greenbaum: Is there anyone from the public who
wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public.
Mr. Biondi?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Ordinance #7-2007 for
final approval.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council Discussion?
Mr. Buell: Yes, the Budd Lake Rescue Squad. The acquisition
of the new ambulance, is this the ambulance that we were
talking in this current budget?
President Greenbaum: No.
Mr. Tepper: It’s two years ago.
Mr. Buell: Two years ago, okay.
Mr. Sohl: This is one of the three Ordinances that had
a defect in advertising, I think, that had to be redone.
President Greenbaum: Any other Council discussion? Roll
Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #7-2007 has passed on second
reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy
of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #8-2007 entitled:
Ord. #8-2007 Bond Ordinance Providing for the Acquisition
of Various Equipment of the Township of Mount Olive, in
the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating the Aggregate
Amount of $122,000 Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance
of $115,900 Bonds or Notes of the Township to Finance Part
of the Cost Thereof.
President Greenbaum: Is there anyone from the public who
wishes to be heard on this particular Ordinance? Seeing
none, I close it to the public. Mr. Biondi, do you want
to move that please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Ordinance #8-2007 for
final passage.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #8-2007 has passed on second
reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy
of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. To all of you here from St. Michael’s
who are studying municipal government, what is required
to make this action that we just took on each of these
ordinances a law of the Township? Does anyone know? Who
needs to sign it? The Mayor, the Mayor needs to sign the
ordinance. If the Mayor doesn’t sign it or if he
vetos it, it comes back to Council.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – 2nd Reading 3/13/07
President Greenbaum: The first ordinance is Ordinance
#9-2007 entitled:
Ord. # 9-2007 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive,
County of Morris, and State of New Jersey to Supplement
Chapter 230, Taxation, With the Addition of Article III, “Payment
of Delinquent Property Taxes.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi do you want to move that
for first hearing, second hearing to be March 13, 2007?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move that Ordinance #9-2007
be introduced by title and passed on first reading and
that a meeting be held on March 13, 2007, at 7:30 p.m.
at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road,
Mount Olive, New Jersey, for public hearing, consideration
of second reading and passage of said ordinance and that
the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the
law.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Any Council discussion? Roll Call
please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: The next ordinance is Ordinance #10-2007
entitled:
Ord. #10-2007 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
to Amend and Supplement Section 400-10, Entitled “Building
Construction,” Subsection B Entitled “Fees” of
the Code of the Township of Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi, do you want to move that
for first hearing?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move that Ordinance #10-2007
be introduced by title and passed on first reading and
that a meeting be held on March 13, 2007, at 7:30 p.m.
at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road,
Mount Olive, New Jersey, for public hearing, consideration
of second reading and passage of said ordinance and that
the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the
law.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Mr. Rattner: I just want to remind the Administration
what was discussed at our budget hearing, that prior to
the public hearing on this, to do an analysis on what the
increase would be and whether or not it would make the
department self sustained. I said it didn’t have
to be tonight but thank you.
President Greenbaum: Any further discussion from Council?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: The next ordinance for first hearing
is Ordinance #11-2007 entitled:
Ord. #11-2007 Bond Ordinance of the Township of Mount
Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey Amending Section
3(m) of Bond Ordinance #11-2001, as Supplemented by Bond
Ordinance #6-2002 and Providing a Supplemental Appropriation
of $150,000 Expected to be Received as a Grant from the
State of New Jersey Department of Transportation to Supplement
the $3,500,000 Appropriated by Bond Ordinance #11-2001
and the $1,608,000 Appropriated by Bond Ordinance #6-2002
of the Township.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi?
Mr. Biondi: Yes, Mr. President. I move that Ordinance
#11-2007 be introduced by title and passed on first reading
and that a meeting be held on March 13, 2007, at 7:30 p.m.
at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road,
Mount Olive, New Jersey, for public hearing, consideration
of second reading and passage of said ordinance and that
the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the
law.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
President Greenbaum: Any further discussion from Council?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: The next ordinance for first hearing
is Ordinance #12-2007 entitled:
Ord. #12-2007 Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive,
in the County of Morris, New Jersey Amending Bond Ordinances
#16-2000, #24-03, as Amended by Ordinance #18-2005, and
#23-2004, Respectively, in Order to Amend the Description
of the Projects Authorized Therein to Include the Construction
of the New Public Works Building.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move that Ordinance #12-2007
be introduced by title and passed on first reading and
that a meeting be held on March 13, 2007, at 7:30 p.m.
at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road,
Mount Olive, New Jersey, for public hearing, consideration
of second reading and passage of said ordinance and that
the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the
law.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: The last ordinance this evening for
first hearing is Ordinance #13-2007 entitled:
Ord. #13-2007 Bond Ordinance Providing for the Resurfacing
of Various Roads in and by the Township of Mount Olive,
in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating $146,179
Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $138,870 Bonds
or Notes of the Township to Finance Part of the Cost Thereof.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move that Ordinance #13-2007
be introduced by title and passed on first reading and
that a meeting be held on March 13, 2007, at 7:30 p.m.
at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road,
Mount Olive, New Jersey, for public hearing, consideration
of second reading and passage of said ordinance and that
the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the
law.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
Mrs. Labow: Yes, but could you add the e to the first
therefore a little minor typo.
Mrs. Lashway: I don’t usually correct Bond Counsel’s
typographical errors.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered
to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council
and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will
be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions
except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements
that may be offered. If one or more Council member requests,
any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be
removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing the Use of a Purchasing Contract
(MCCPC# 38 & #41 Pinnacle Wireless Inc.).
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Providing for the Transfer of 2006 Budget
Appropriations for the Current Fund Budget.
3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Endorsing the Application of Mount Olive
Historical Society as a Quasi-Entity for Purposes of Insurance
Coverage.
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing a Grant Agreement with Morris
County Open Space Trust for the Silver Springs Extension
Project.
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing Mayor David Scapicchio to Execute
a Drunk Driving Enforcement Fund Application.
6. A Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing the Award of a Non-Fair and
Open Contract for the Position of Township Attorney.
7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Requesting the Musconetcong Sewerage Authority
(MSA) to Make an Application to NJDEP to Place Lot 10,
Block 4100, Commonly Referred to as Combe Fill North Within
the MSA Sewer Area.
8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing William Sohl, Business Administrator,
to Execute a TWA Application for the Musconetcong Sewerage
Authority.
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: This evening on the Amended Agenda
we have eight resolutions on Consent Resolutions. Does
any Councilmember wish to have any of the resolutions removed?
Seeing none. I will open it up to the public for anyone
who wishes to comment on any of the eight resolutions on
the Consent Resolutions Agenda. Seeing none, I will close
it to the public. Is there any brief clarifying statement
from any Councilmember on the Consent Resolutions Agenda?
Seeing none. Roll Call.
Mrs. Lashway: It has to be moved.
President Greenbaum: I’m sorry, it wasn’t
moved? Mr. Biondi do you want to move it first please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Consent Resolutions
#1-8 for passage.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Moved and seconded. Roll
Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
President Greenbaum: Non Consent Resolution #9, do you
want to move that Mr. Biondi?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Non Consent Resolution
#9 for approval.
President Greenbaum: Which is:
9. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing a Developer’s Agreement
Based Upon Final Subdivision Approval Between the Township
and Toll Brothers, LLC, Morris Hunt Phase II.
Mr. Buell: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Mr. Tepper one
minute. Is there anyone from the public who wishes to be
heard on this particular resolution? Seeing none, I close
it to the public. Mr. Tepper?
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
Mr. Tepper: Question, do we have to have a resolution
having to doing with the proposed water franchise before
we move forward with this?
Mr. Dorsey: No. That has to do with Morris Chase. The
issue you raised has to do with the Morris Chase Developer’s
Agreement where the water system is primarily located.
There has been an Ordinance submitted by American Water
as adjunct with Toll Brothers in connection with Morris
Chase. That Ordinance is being reviewed and I have set
up a meeting with BPU to discuss it. I will discuss it
further with you next week.
Mr. Tepper: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Any other Council discussion? Ray,
have all of the issues that were identified been addressed?
Mr. Perkins: Yes, Mr. President.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: The next resolution is entitled:
10. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing a Developer’s Agreement
Based Upon Final Subdivision Approval Between the Township
and Toll Brothers, LLC, Morris Hunt Phase III.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi, do you want to move that
please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Non Consent Resolution
#10 for passage.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Anyone from the
public that wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I close it
to the public. Any Council comment?
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: We are up to #11 entitled:
11. Resolution Determining the Form and Other Details
of the $4,050,000 General Obligation Bonds, Consisting
of $2,005,000 General Improvement Bonds, $645,000 Water
Utility Bonds and $1,400,000 Tax Appeal Refunding Bonds
and Providing for Their Sale
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi, do you want to move that
please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Non Consent Resolution
#11 for passage.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there anyone
from the public who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I
close it to the public. Any Council Comment? Roll Call
please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: We are up to #12 entitled:
12. Resolution Providing for the Combination of Certain
issues of Water Utility Bonds of the Township of Mount
Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey into a Single
Issue of Bonds Aggregating $645,000 in Principal Amount.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Non Consent Resolution
#12 for approval.
Mr. Tepper: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there anyone
from the public who wishes to be heard? Seeing none. Any
Council comment? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Resolution #13 entitled:
13. Resolution Providing for the Combination of Certain
Issues of General Improvement bonds of the Township of
Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey into a
Single Issue of bonds Aggregating $2,005,000 in Principal
Amount.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Non Consent Resolution
#13 for approval.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there anyone
from the public who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I
close it to the public. Any Council comment?
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Resolution #14 entitled:
14. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing a Place-to-Place Transfer of
Alcoholic Beverage License No. 1427-33-008-004 Issued to
Flanders Valley Caterers, Inc. from 80 Pleasant Hill Road
to 80 Pleasant Hill Road (Expansion of Premises).
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move Non Consent Resolution
#14 for approval.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there anyone
from the public who wishes to be heard? Seeing none. I
close it to the public. Anyone on Council wish to be heard?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
MOTIONS
President Greenbaum: Motions, #1 is:
1. Approval of an Amendment to Bingo License #2167 issued
to the Budd Lake Volunteer Fire Co.
#1, Inc.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi, do you want to move that
please?
Mr. Biondi: Mr. President, I move motion #1 for approval.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
2. Bill List
President Greenbaum: Bill List, do you want to move it
please, Mr. Biondi?
Mr. Biondi: I move the Bill List Mr. President, for approval.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any
Council comment? Is there anyone from the audience? Did
you have anything tonight Mr. Russell on the Bill List?
Mr. Russell: You didn’t have any available for…
Mrs. Lashway: I apologize.
President Greenbaum: Okay, we are going to withhold the
Bill List momentarily. We will move on to the other items
then we will deal with the Bill List prior to closing the
meeting so that Mr. Russell can have an opportunity to
review it.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
President Greenbaum: Mr. Sohl or Mayor, do you have any
additional Administrative matters this evening?
Mr. Sohl: Nothing right now.
President Greenbaum: Okay, just so the public is aware
next Tuesday night we intend to continue with our budget
discussions. There will also be a public portion related
to the replacement of Mr. Biondi’s successor as is
established by law in terms of how that successor is chosen
and hopefully by the conclusion of Tuesday night’s
meeting we’ll have a budget in good enough form to… and
in good enough time to actually introduce the budget at
the public meeting of the 13th.
OLD BUSINESS - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
LEGAL MATTERS
Mr. Dorsey: Yes, I will take a minute Mr. Council President.
In the first place, I must thank Councilman Rattner, who
denied me a contingent fee last week, for all of his very
considerable work in connection with the sale of Combe
Fill North. It’s a very complicated process. It’s
a process that involves six or seven different independent
agencies. It so happens that Mr. Councilman Rattner sits
on two or three of those agencies but he has done a super
job in terms of representing the Township’s interests.
I mean it has been so good that the Rockefeller Group wanted
to hire him. They sent a contract to hire him but I wouldn’t
approve it because we don’t want to lose Mr. Rattner.
He’s also doing…
Mr. Rattner: Wait a minute. I think your ethics require
you to present any contract to a client that’s in
your possession. I’m the client. You mean you withheld
an offer?
Mr. Dorsey: I withheld it. I always do what’s best
for the interests of the Township, Mr. Rattner…
President Greenbaum: Can we get a Roll Call on that please?
Mr. Rattner: I’ll move it.
Mr. Dorsey: Mr. Rattner is also going to be a chief witness
for the defense in the Dattolo matter. We have three attorneys
working so that when we put him on the witness stand he
manages to confine his answers to the questions asked and
it may be an overpowering process and he has also leaned
very heavily on Lisa, as have I, to do research for us.
She has been great digging them up. Well, Lisa has done
a great job. Number two, on the Muelbauer House we discussed
that some time ago. I now have the three checks from the
three insurance companies who agreed to pay…and a
number less than I would have liked to submitted, but it
was what the Assessor gave us, so we were locked in. The
fourth arrangement was made through Mr. Sohl. I’ve
sent the final papers and I simply have to wait for the
attorney to approve them. So it means you will come fairly
close within a couple of thousand dollars of the low estimate
of the damage. Secondly, I am going to turn in a check
to the Township tonight for $16,712.50. Starting about
three years ago Vollers Excavating, who you all know as
a contractor at the FTZ and elsewhere, instituted the most
amazing piece of litigation against AIG Baker, the Township
and others. We have represented the Township, of course,
in that litigation brought by Vollers and based upon a
requirement in the original developers agreement signed
by AIG Baker that they would have to defend and hold harmless
the Township, I have recaptured all of my legal fees to
the Township for the year 2005 based upon paid bills Finance
gave to me. So there is $16,000 to the Township. That’s
it.
President Greenbaum: Thank you very much. As always.
Mr. Rattner: Gee, if you would have done $100,000 worth
of work there would have been a $100,000 bill.
Mr. Dorsey: You are such a wise guy. I tell you there
is more coming.
Mr. Rattner: Okay.
President Greenbaum: Nelson did you have a chance to review
the Bill List?
Mr. Russell: Yes, no questions.
President Greenbaum: No questions this evening. Mr. Biondi,
do you want to move the Bill List?
Mr. Biondi: I would like to move the Bill List.
President Greenbaum: It has already been moved and seconded,
I apologize. Is there any discussion? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
COUNCIL REPORTS
Recreation Liaison Report
President Greenbaum: Okay Mr. Biondi you are up on recreation.
You are giving all of the Committee Reports this evening.
Mr. Biondi: No report on recreation.
Board of Health Report
President Greenbaum: Board of Health Report. Mr. Biondi
you can defer to Mrs. Labow if you’d like.
Mr. Biondi: I would like to defer to Mrs. Labow on the
Board of Health. It’s her bailiwick.
Mrs. Labow: My bailiwick. We met this past Wednesday and
we have been researching the possibility of having a stacking
ordinance for Mount Olive. We were directed to review that
a couple of months ago. In the past two months, Frank Wilpert
our Health Officer, myself and our Attorney, Peter King,
met with Ann from Parsippany who is the Councilwoman involved
in their stacking ordinance. As many of us know, right
now the apartment complex owner in Parsippany has taken
Parsippany to court on a couple of issues. Mr. Wilpert
also did some more research as far as where this ordinance
should be in terms of where other Townships have it placed.
I found out that Parsippany, Dover and Morristown, that
ordinance is through their municipal end of it, their zoning
department. With that being said we decided that it would
be something that we would bring back to Council and say
that, to have a stacking ordinance that is managed through
the Health Department is probably not appropriate because
basically it is a zoning issue and the recommendation from
the Board of Health would be if the Council would be so
inclined to have a steering committee formed, our recommendations
were to have a member of the Council on it, a member of
the Board of Education on it, a member from the Board of
Health and a member from the public, representation from
the apartment complex’s and a member of the Zoning
Department/Administration on the steering committee to
review if having this, to having a stacking ordinance is
something that this Township wants to have on our books.
The Health Department basically said is if there is a stacking
issue where there may be a bug infestation or some kind
of germs or sickness or illness, the Health Department
would still be brought in regardless, even if it was something
that they would not actually enforce overall. So what’s
your pleasure, Mr. Council President?
President Greenbaum: Give to me in a memo and I will address
it in terms of appointing some kind of committee to take
a look at the issue of stacking. I think the first thing
to do is to send something off to Zoning and to the School
Board to identify whether or not Mount Olive has a stacking
issue.
Mrs. Labow: Well, that is exactly what a Steering Committee
would do.
President Greenbaum: I am not sure that we need to formally
do that as opposed to…if you send me a memo I will
direct the Clerk’s office to direct that issue to
both the Board of Education and to the Zoning Department
to get their take on it and we will take it from there.
Thank you.
Planning Board Report
President Greenbaum: Planning Board Report. Mr. Biondi,
did you want to defer that to Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Biondi: I would like to defer to Mr. Tepper on the
Planning Board please.
Mr. Tepper: Thank you, Mr. Biondi. Although the first
meeting will be next week, there was a letter that was
sent out regarding the Highlands and I wanted to make sure
that everyone is aware that on March 15th that there will
be public meeting of the Planning Board whereby Chuck McGoarty
will talk about the Highlands Draft Regional Master Plan
and anyone who is interested on how that will impact on
our Town is welcome to attend.
Board of Adjustment Liaison Report
President Greenbaum: Okay, Board of Adjustment Report.
Mr. Biondi did you want to defer to Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Biondi: I would like to defer to Mr. Perkins please.
Mr. Perkins: I refer it right back to you.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you Mr. Perkins. No report on Board
of Adjustment this evening.
Mr. Perkins: No report Mr. President, standard business
as usual. Thank you, Mr. Biondi.
Open Space Committee Report
President Greenbaum: Open Space Report Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: I would like to defer to Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: There is no report this evening as we don’t
meet until two weeks from now.
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Biondi: There is no report this evening.
Pride Committee Liaison Report
President Greenbaum: Pride Committee Report, Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: I would like to defer to Mr. Perkins for the
Pride Committee.
Mr. Perkins: Thank you, Mr. Biondi. Mr. President, we
had the first meeting of this new year. We had our reorganization.
They are putting together some new members. They did have
a meeting with our new Mayor, trying to get the Administration’s
take on where the Pride Committee should continue to focus
their efforts. They should be coordinating a lot of their
efforts this upcoming year with the Economic Development
Committee. It probably makes good sense for them to join
up together. The billboard down on Route 206 is getting
ready to be changed. Now that CBS is the new owners, at
least the new billboard folks, we are having a little problem
with them. Other than that, business as usual.
Mr. Biondi: Thank you, Mr. Perkins.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, Mr. Biondi.
Board of Education Liaison Report
President Greenbaum: Board of Education Report, Mr. Biondi.
Mr. Biondi: I would like to defer that report to Mr. Buell.
Mr. Buell: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: I think Mr. Buell already brought
it to the Council meeting.
Mr. Biondi: Yes he did… and boy did he.
Mr. Buell: Forty-five people. A couple of other things
happened at the Board of Education meeting. Carl Eckert
has been…he is in the process of being appointed
as the new football coach. They are moving on with the
selection of the Principal of the Sand Shore School. On
March 5th there is a special meeting. We have noticed so
that more than one of us or more than three of us can be
at the presentation of the 2007 School Budget, the Board
of Education Budget, and that starts at 7:30 p.m. The venue
has been changed from the Administration Building to the
Middle School. So it is at the Middle School.
President Greenbaum: Cafeteria?
Mrs. Labow: Yes.
Mr. Buell: The last piece is that the Superintendent announced
that they have a group of seven students up at, I think,
the Sand Shore School who set up their own recycling crew.
I would suggest that possibly the SWAC Committee get in
touch with the seven students. It would be interesting…
Mr. Biondi: There is a member of SWAC here this evening.
Mr. Buell: That’s it basically.
President Greenbaum: Were both meetings changed to the
Middle School? Or the first is still at the…
Mr. Buell: The meeting on the 5th to present the School
Board Budget is at the Middle School.
President Greenbaum: Right and the meeting on the 6th
is at the Administration building.
Mr. Buell: There’s nothing on the 6th.
President Greenbaum: Yes, there is a meeting at 6:00 and
I think it just relates to…
Mr. Rattner: Outsourcing.
Mr. Buell: Oh no, shared services.
President Greenbaum: Yes. shared service.
Mr. Tepper: I thought that was the 5th.
Mrs. Labow: Mr. Buell, did you want to announce who the
candidates were for the…yesterday was the deadline.
Mr. Tepper: There is only one extra.
Mr. Buell: I read it but I did not get to who all the
candidates who were announced….
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