The Regular Public Meeting of the Mount
Olive Township Council was called to Order at 7:30 pm by Council
President Greenbaum with the Pledge of Allegiance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & MOMENT OF REFLECTION for all those who
have and continue to protect our freedoms and our way of life.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this
meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle. Notice has
been posted at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey and notices were sent
to those requesting the same.
ROLL CALL Present: Mr. Buell, Mr. Rattner, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Tepper,
Mr. Tobey, Mr. Greenbaum
Absent: None
Also Present: David Scapicchio, Mayor; William Sohl, Business
Administrator;
Dominic DiYanni, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk; Sherry Jenkins,
CFO
President Greenbaum: Let the record reflect that Mr. Buell, I
believe, is in a meeting of the Park people who are committed to
advancing the Park interests within Mount Olive. I am sure he will
be here shortly.
Questions on Bill List?
President Greenbaum: Are there any questions on the Bill List
this evening? Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: Yes, just one question. I saw on the Bill List that
we have the payment for the ambulance that we only approved last
month, and I guess they are going to be receiving it soon because
they bought it off the shelf or something like that which, finally,
is better than all of their customized stuff. The only thing I
want to make sure of is that we get the proper inspections from
the leadership of the Rescue Squad that the equipment is there.
I believe that they take it to their mechanic because I still have
the bad taste in my mouth from the Rescue Truck that they bought
that had the initial failure, and then the Council decided to pay
Odyssey extra just to make it so that they could go meet their
specifications. So I just want to make sure that we don’t
release the check until we have that. We have the certification
that everything works and we’re supposed to from their mechanic,
which I believe is Miller Diesel, and from either Frank Carlo or
Phyllis Gentile about the equipment that was spec’d on there
because I don’t want to go through that again.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone have any issues on the Bill List?
Mr. Buell, any issues on the Bill List?
Mr. Buell: No, all of my questions have been asked and answered.
President Greenbaum: Okay, I did note for the record that you
were in a meeting inside.
Mr. Buell: Thank you.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
President Greenbaum: Okay, we’re up to approval of Minutes
of previous meetings. Mr. Tobey, do you want to move both of those
sets, all four sets I guess.
Mr. Tobey: Is this correct, the October 9th?
Mrs. Lashway: No, October 2nd.
President Greenbaum: October 2nd.
Mr. Tobey: October 2nd, I’m sorry.
Mr. Rattner: Because everyone can see that Mr. Perkins and I are
here.
Mr. Tobey: Okay, I move for approval of Minutes of previous meetings
of:
Sept. 25, 2007 PM, WS & CS
Present: Mr. Buell, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Tobey, Mr. Tepper,
Mr. Rattner
Absent: Mr. Perkins
Oct. 2, 2007 WS & CS
Present: Mr. Buell, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Tobey, Mr. Tepper
Absent: Mr. Perkins & Mr. Rattner
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Are there any comments,
deletions, corrections? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously with the exception Mr. Perkins
abstained from both and Mr. Rattner abstained from October 2nd
CORRESPONDENCE
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS / ORGANIZATIONS
1. Letter received October 5, 2007, from McManimon and Scotland,
LLC regarding Request for Proposal, Legal Services.
RESOLUTIONS / ORDIANCES / CORRESPONDENCE OTHER TOWNS
2. Resolution received September 19, 2007, from the Township of
Parsippany – Troy Hills, regarding Opposing the Sale of State
Assets.
3. Information received September 27, 2007, from the Mount Olive
Area Chamber of Commerce regarding Multi-Chamber Networking Meeting.
4. Invitation received October 1, 2007, from the Township of Denville
regarding the Dedication of Denville Town Hall.
MUA / MSA
5. Letter received September 24, 2007, from the Sussex County
Municipal Utilities Authority regarding the Proposed FY 2008 Rate
Schedule.
6. Letter received September 24, 2007, from the Morris County
Municipal Utilities Authority regarding MCMUA Vegetative Waste – Compost
Facilities 2007 “Leaf Season” Hours.
7. List of Allocations received October 3, 2007, from the Musconetcong
Sewerage Authority regarding participating Municipalities in the
4.31 MGD Water Pollution Control Plant.
DOT / DEP / LOI / HIGHLANDS
8. Letter received September 21, 2007, from Betts Environmental
Services Corporation regarding CEA Biennial Certification Notification
(Bd. of Ed. Transportation Depot groundwater contamination).
9. Letter received September 24, 2007, from the State of New
Jersey, Department of Transportation, regarding Naughright Road – Available
Funds.
10. Letter received September 27, 2007, from Gregory Ploussas,
P.E., regarding Highlands Applicability and Water Quality Management
Plan Consistency Determination, Givaudan Phase I Expansion, Block
402, Lots 2 and 5 (300 Waterloo Valley Road).
11. Public Notice received October 1, 2007, from the State of
New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding extension
of comment period for the Proposed FFY 2008 Priority System, Intended
Use Plan and Project Priority List Document for Clean Water Financing.
12. Letter received October 1, 2007, from Spillane Engineering
Associates, Inc. regarding Highlands Applicability Application,
Block 8500, Lot 10 (123 Mine Hill Road).
13. Letter received October 3, 2007, from the State of New Jersey,
Department of Environmental Protection, regarding Mount Olive Child
Care and Learning Center, Inc., Entire Site, Unrestricted Use,
No further Action Letter and Covenant not to Sue - Block 8101,
Lot 28 (150 Wolfe Road).
14. Letter received October 5, 2007, from the State of New Jersey,
Department of Environmental Protection, regarding Remediation Investigation
Report for Whiting Manufacturing, Inc. & Image Boat Co. at
15 Flanders – Netcong Road.
15. Letter received October 5, 2007, from the State of New Jersey,
Department of Environmental Protection, regarding Toys R US – Site
Improvements Block 6600, Lot 1 (Bartley Road).
DCA
16. E-mail received October 3, 2007, from the State of New Jersey,
Department of Community Affairs regarding DCA Greyfields Initiative
Information.
17. E-mail received October 5, 2007, from the State of New Jersey,
Department of Community Affairs regarding The First Annual Public
Performance Measurement and Reporting Conference.
MORRIS COUNTY
18. Minutes received September 26, 2007, from the Morris County
Planning Board regarding the July 19, 2007 meeting.
UTILITIES
19. Letter received September 20, 2007, from AIR 2 regarding Helicopter
Transmission Line Maintenance.
20. Letter received September 24, 2007, from Stephen R Urbinato,
Esq. regarding Budd Lake Sanitary Sewer System – Township
of Mount Olive Reassignment of EDU’s to Equity Plaza Shopping
Center, Block 2300, Lot 10 (382 Route 46, Mount Olive).
21. Letter received September 26, 2007, from Comcast regarding
NHL Network / TBS HD.
22. Letter received October 1, 2007, from Comcast regarding TBS
HD channel addition.
President Greenbaum: There are 22 pieces of Correspondence. Does
anyone wish to comment on any particular piece of Correspondence?
Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: Just a quick question. On number 15, the DEP actually
revoked or cancelled the permits for the site improvements for
Toys ‘R Us. Is it that they just got behind in doing their
filing, or are they actually not going to expand the way that they
were planning, which is basically parking lots, you know, and impervious
coverage.
Mr. Tepper: I believe that it was going to be that they changed
how they were doing it, but I will confirm with the Planning Board
what the case was.
Mr. Rattner: Yes, because if you read the memo it said that they
had been previously contacted, that they didn’t respond from
some deficiency since the time limit went up, when they had the
extra time, they just cancelled it outright.
Mr. Tepper: I will confirm that at the next meeting.
Mr. Rattner: Okay, thank you.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Buell, did you have something?
Mr. Buell: Yes, number 17, I read the Correspondence on this and
it seems very interesting. I would like to attend that basically
because it is a conference, evidently a two day conference where
the DCA is going to review performance measures for the Township
operations. At least that’s what it appears to me, and I
think possibly Administration should also have someone go to that
conference.
President Greenbaum: Well, certainly if you want to go I would
submit, do you want the Township to pick up the cost for you of
the conference?
Mr. Buell: Just for the registration.
President Greenbaum: You know what? Do we have money in the budget
for that? Yes, that’s not a problem and a recommendation
has been made for someone from the Administration to attend as
well. As you know Mr. Buell has made it one of his priorities to
move the Township forward with regard to performance evaluations.
This may be beneficial, thank you. Any other comments on Correspondence?
General feel, has everybody been able to review the Correspondence
in that we’re not copying everything at this point? Is everyone
satisfied that it’s a better procedure at this point, or
at least it is working? It seems like everyone is in agreement
and if there is any way to further streamline the copying, or to
stop copying documents which we don’t need multiple copies
of I suggest that you bring that to Lisa’s attention. She’s
done a very good job to date in terms of moving our conservation
efforts further.
Mrs. Lashway: We are scanning it because Colleen and Steve still
want to get it, so if anybody else wants it, it’s being scanned.
It’s easy enough to add another person to the list.
Mr. Rattner: I didn’t ask you to scan it. I said since you’re
scanning it already, I would take a copy.
Mr. Tepper: Are you scanning it electronically? I would take a
copy.
President Greenbaum: And they’re available in the office.
It doesn’t take long to go through the documents. They’re
generally documents that only take a moment or two to review to
see if they are of importance to any particular issue that you
are dealing with as opposed to something that is being copied into
your box which deals directly with Township issues. Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Perkins: Lisa, when you’re scanning these are you scanning
them into a folder? You’re storing it as a PDF or a picture
where?
Mrs. Lashway: On my computer.
Mr. Perkins: On your computer. Is there any way, could you find
out, that we could have general access if we wanted to open up
a folder on general access on the server, where you would have
that stored? Then if anybody wanted to review it they could review
it or they could print it at the Town.
Mrs. Lashway: I will find out.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, excellent point. It’s actually,
that might be a better way to go.
Mr. Rattner: That’s a much better way to go.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
President Greenbaum: Okay, we have one ordinance for Public Hearing
tonight entitled:
Ord. #40-2007 An Ordinance Regulating the Statutory Authority
of United Telephone Company of New Jersey, Inc. Its Successors
and Assigns to Use the Various Public Roads, Streets, Or Highways
in the Township of Mount Olive, Morris County, New Jersey, for
its Local and Through Lines and Other Communications Facilities
and Prescribing the Conditions Thereof.
President Greenbaum: At this point in time I will open it up to
anyone in the public who wishes to be heard on Ordinance #40-2007.
Anything this evening, Mr. Escobar?
Mr. Escobar (From the audience): No gentlemen, not at all, thank
you.
President Greenbaum: Okay, with that I would ask Mr. Tepper to
please move Ordinance #40-2007 for approval.
Mr. Tepper: Yes Mr. President, I move Ordinance #40-2007 for adoption
and final passage.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any Council
comment? Roll Call.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #40-2007 has passed on second reading
and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the
Mayor, and publish the notice of adoption as required by law.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – (Public Hearing October 23,
2007)
President Greenbaum: This evening there are three ordinances for
first reading, with second reading being October 23rd, 2007. The
first ordinance is entitled:
Ord. #41– 2007 An Ordinance of the Township Council of the
Township of Mount Olive to Amend and Supplement Article V Entitled “Design
Guidelines and Technical Standards” of Section 400-64 Entitled
Soil Erosion and Sediment Control of the Code of the Township of
Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Buell can you move that please, with
second reading to be October 23rd, 2007.
Mr. Buell: Yes thank you. I move that Ordinance #41-2007 be introduced
by title and passed on first reading and that a meeting be held
on October 23rd, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204
Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, NJ for a public hearing
consideration of said reading and passage of said ordinance and
that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
such ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Rattner: Second.
President Greenbaum: It’s been moved and seconded. Is there
any Council discussion? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: The next ordinance for first reading entitled:
Ord. #42 – 2007 An Ordinance of the Township Council of
the Township of Mount Olive to Amend and Supplement Article V Entitled “Zoning” and
Specifically Section 400-81 Entitled “Fences and Walls” of
the Code of the Township of Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Labow do you want to move that please?
Mrs. Labow: Yes Mr. President, I move that Ordinance # 42-2007
be introduced by title and passed on first reading and that a meeting
be held on October 23rd, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building,
204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, NJ for a public hearing
consideration of said reading and passage of said ordinance and
that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
such ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any Council
discussion? Roll Call please?
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Ord. #-2007 Phosphorus/Fertilizer (being worked on) REMOVED
President Greenbaum: The next ordinance for first reading is entitled:
Ord. #43-2007 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive to Amend
and Supplement Chapter 102, Article I, of the Code of the Township
of Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner do you want to move that please?
Mr. Rattner: I move that Ordinance #43-2007 be introduced by title
and passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on October
23rd, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive, NJ for a public hearing consideration of said
reading and passage of said ordinance and that the Clerk be directed
to publish, post and make available such ordinance in accordance
with the requirements of law.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any Council
discussion? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine
and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved
by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion
or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility
of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more
Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent
Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on
separately.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Extending the Time for the Completion of Improvements in
Connection with Wyndham Pointe Section 4.
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Execution of an
Easement Agreement with Leonard J. Kubik.
3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing a Tax Appeal Settlement with the A&P Shopping
Center, Lot 38 & 30.01, Block 8100.
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Awarding a Contract and Lease for Wireless Communication
Antenna Monopole and Ground Facility on Township Property designated
as Block 6800 Lot 13.
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Requesting Approval from the Director of the Division of
Local Government Services for Insertion of a Specific Item of Revenue
into the 2007 Municipal Budget ($180.00 for Tobacco Age-of-Sale
Enforcement).
6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of a Grant Balance of $150.00
for the Impaired Driving Crackdown Grant.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone wish to have any of the six removed?
Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: Number four.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone else wish to have any of them
moved to Non Consent? Seeing none, Mr. Perkins do you want to move
one through three, and five and six?
Mr. Perkins: Yes Mr. President, I move for adoption of Resolutions
one, two, three, five and six.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS - none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS - none
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Does anyone from the
public wish to be heard on any of the resolutions on the Consent
Resolutions Agenda? Seeing none, I will close it to the public.
Does anyone on Council have a brief clarifying statement with respect
to the Consent Resolutions Agenda? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
President Greenbaum: This evening there are three resolutions
on Non Consent, the first is entitled:
4 Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Awarding a Contract and Lease for Wireless Communication
Antenna Monopole and Ground Facility on Township Property designated
as Block 6800 Lot 13.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Tepper can you move that for me please?
Mr. Tepper: I move for approval of Non Consent Resolutions four,
seven and eight.
President Greenbaum: Just one at a time.
Mr. Tepper: Number four.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
President Greenbaum: It’s been moved and seconded. Does
anyone from the public wish to be heard on Resolution #4? Seeing
none, Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: My question is what is being offered for that particular
contract and lease? Have we solicited any of the three major carriers,
and if not, why not? We reference in the approval that we have
leased based on others and their similar existing arrangements,
and I remember with Combe Fill North we originally went out and
looked at getting, thinking $1 million would be very good and we
now end up with $10 million because of competitive bidding.
President Greenbaum: Doesn’t this have to be bid out, Mr.
Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: It was bid out. We did not solicit specifically to any
one vendor or to one carrier.
President Greenbaum: So it was bid out. It was competitively bid.
Mr. Tepper: Alright, what was the amount?
Mr. Sohl: $24,000.
Mr. Tepper: On an annual basis?
Mr. Sohl: On an annual basis, three percent escalator.
Mr. Tepper: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Does that answer your questions Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: Yes it does.
President Greenbaum: Okay, does anyone else have any comments
or questions with regard to Resolution #4? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – Passed unanimously with the exception Mr. Tepper
voted no
President Greenbaum: We’re up to Resolution #7 entitled:
7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Review of all Non-Single Family Customers
in the Budd Lake Sanitary Sewer System. ADDED
President Greenbaum: Mr. Perkins, can you move that please?
Mr. Perkins: Yes, I move for passage of Non Consent Resolution
#7.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Tobey: Second.
President Greenbaum: It’s been moved and seconded. Is there
anyone from the public that wishes to be heard on Non Consent Resolution
#7? Seeing none, I close it to the public. Is there any comment
from any Council member with respect to Resolution #7? Roll Call
please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: We’re up to Resolution #8 entitled:
8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Removal of Block 5201 Lot 10, and Block 5300
Lot 8.01 from Tax Sale. ADDED
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Labow, do you want to move that please?
Mrs. Labow: I’d like to move Resolution #8.
Mr. Buell: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS - none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Does anyone from the
public wish to be heard on Resolution #8? Seeing none, I close
it to the public. Any Council member wish to be heard? Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: I just want to say that I am really excited. This
is a parcel that the Open Space Committee has been trying to acquire
from the Township for a very, very long time. It will connect the
High School Board of Education property with Turkey Brook Park
which will eventually enable us to, our Cross Country Track team
and any of the other students will have direct access to Turkey
Brook Park. I believe it is going to be a really wonderful thing.
So I am looking forward to having this closing finalized and get
moving with our trail systems and it’s really great news.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Are there any other comments?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
MOTIONS
President Greenbaum: We’re up to Motions at this point.
There is no raffle application and I see that the Mount Olive High
School Parents Club has decided not to put something on the Agenda
this evening.
Mr. Rattner: Making too much money from the concession stand?
Mrs. Labow: We’re waiting until next week.
President Greenbaum: We’re going to have to start scrutinizing
these.
Mrs. Labow: It’s going to have to be…
Mr. Perkins: May not be in a favorable mood…
Mrs. Labow: We’re going to have to call it Mount Vegas.
President Greenbaum: Nelson or Ned, did you have questions on
the Bill List this evening? Why don’t you come up to the
podium before we move it?
Nelson Russell, Budd Lake: On page three, the first item is a
refund on the Homestead Rebate check. How are we refunding Homestead
Rebates?
Mrs. Jenkins: If people are delinquent in taxes we get their Homestead
Rebate. If they then become current, once we file the respective
report showing that there is no delinquency, then they are entitled
to get their refund back.
Mr. Russell: Okay, thank you.
Mrs. Jenkins: You’re welcome.
1. Raffle Application #2223 for the Mt. Olive High School Parents
Club. – R. Tepper (REMOVED)
2. Bill List
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Anything Ned? Okay. Anything from
anyone else on the Bill List? At this point Mr. Buell, do you want
to move the Bill List?
Mr. Buell: I move the Bill List.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Any comments? Mr. Buell.
Mr. Buell: Yes, what I am, it’s not a question it actually
disturbs me slightly. There is $14,000 to be paid to Penske for
out of contract costs. I asked today for an accounting of where
we stood in the accounts in terms of the budget. Evidently we had
$84,000 budgeted at the beginning of the year. We are now, as of
the end of August $80,000 on this particular line. Obviously we
are over budget if it continues by about $40,000 which is the thing
that concerns me.
President Greenbaum: Well is there money left in the budget at
some point in either DPW or elsewhere which ultimately can be transferred
into this account?
Mrs. Jenkins: We’re definitely going to be able to cover
the transfer. We’ve talked about the fact that we knew it
was going to be going over.
President Greenbaum: Is this number troubling to the Administration
in terms of cost increases?
Mr. Sohl: The situation is one in which we’ve gotten much
better service from Penske. They’ve done a much better job
and we’ve seen a decrease in the out of contract over time.
President Greenbaum: Okay.
Mr. Sohl: When they came in they were correcting ills of past
situations.
President Greenbaum: This is obviously an issue we’re going
to have to get much more in detail, that we’re going to have
to discuss much more in depth as budgeting comes around. We want
to make sure that we’re accurately tracking our costs and
that we have adequate money set aside for these types of expenses
in the future.
Mr. Sohl: Agreed.
President Greenbaum: Okay, so I would expect that we will have
something at budget time which is going to explain this number.
If in fact you feel that this number is high because of the increased
service that we’ve had in that the increased service will
in fact lower our costs on a going forward basis because our machinery
is being better kept, then I’d like to know that as well.
Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: I think the real issue is maybe some of the terms
in the contract. If you remember, we had gone out to bid, the Mayor
took office, Bill started and they had to make a decision almost
right away. The management overseeing the contract is better, but
it was basically either go with the contract or have a problem.
I think the improvements are being made and I really think that
the Finance Committee is going to be looking at it. The contract
itself will look better also going forward.
Mr. Sohl: One of the things to also keep in mind is the need to
replace vehicles or keep renewing the fleet.
President Greenbaum: Well, that’s a separate issue. That’s
an issue that we have to deal with on a yearly basis irrespective
of whether Penske is doing in contract, or out of contract review.
Mr. Sohl: But if you did nothing…
President Greenbaum: I think that Mr. Rattner is probably correct.
It’s really a fine tuning of the contract to try to bring
more of these costs, out of pocket costs, and out of contract costs
back within the scope of the contract if we can. We can define
where we’re spending the money, and we can better word the
contract so that these expenses are covered under the annual contract
rather than an additional, then we have improved markedly where
we stand. I’m sure that you would agree with that. I think
that’s what Mr. Rattner is suggesting is that the contract
needs to be modified, and this is not a criticism…
Mr. Sohl: No…
Mr. Rattner: They were basically handed that, and I know that
they were looking at that because we had some discussions at the
beginning of the year.
President Greenbaum: I have heard nothing with respect to any
deficiencies this year with respect to Penske that we heard in
past years.
Mr. Sohl: The contract is automatically forward.
President Greenbaum: I understand that.
Mr. Rattner: Yes, but the next one is going to be better, but
they were handed what they had and what they had to work with,
I think that they’ve been doing a very good job.
President Greenbaum: I have heard no negative comments with respect
to our fleet maintenance this year.
Mr. Rattner: You’ve got to listen better, there are so.
It’s a lot better.
President Greenbaum: You know what, I hear a lot of people criticize
you but I still like you.
Mr. Rattner: No you don’t.
President Greenbaum: Okay, just walk through my neighborhoods,
and start with my wife. Mr. Buell do you want to move the Bill
List?
Mr. Buell: I already moved it.
President Greenbaum: It’s already been moved. Alright so,
and there was a second?
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Let’s vote on it then, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Gene, did you have something this evening
or are you just sitting in?
Mr. Buczynski (From the audience): No, I’m just enjoying
the meeting.
Mr. Rattner: He likes the idea of not having any questions asked
about him.
President Greenbaum: That’s because Boston isn’t playing
tonight otherwise Gene would not be here.
Mr. Buczynski (From the audience): I want to give my condolences
to the Yankee team.
Mr. Tepper: Boston’s still not there Gene.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
Mr. Sohl: On the same theme, I sent out two memos and I presume
we will go forward on the two Verizon requests?
President Greenbaum: Does anyone have an issue with those?
Mr. Rattner: I just saw it when I got home late today, and saw
it and just had time to look at it because one of the things, and
I think when Mr. Tepper brought up his question, is that you said
that you were going forward moving in a consistent manner with
this past contract, but putting the antennas on existing things
like water towers and something else I think is a lot different
because we’ve gone out there and actually negotiated and
negotiated exact amounts. If the telephone company wants to go
there they’ll pay a little bit more. What happened with this
piece of property was that it was a piece of property we were leasing
out where the telephone company also had to build the tower that
other people would have to use, but with all of the water towers
we have, they’re all non-exclusive contracts and we just
have to figure out how many we can put on each one. So I’ll
have to look at that and I’ll just have my comments tomorrow.
Mr. Sohl: It’s my understanding from John Dorsey’s
office that we still have to go out to bid.
Mr. Tepper: But do we actually solicit the others, or do we put
it out to bid?
President Greenbaum: Mayor?
Mayor Scapicchio: You know Russ, that’s a valid question
and Bill and I discussed this on several occasions. The quandary
that I have with that is that if you’re putting a document
out to bid and then we, the Administration, pick up the telephone
and call say, six other vendors and we miss maybe four other vendors
out there, I mean are we sort of in violation at that point? We’re
reaching out for six, but yet there were another six out there.
Do we inform all of them?
Mr. Tepper: Well there are four major carriers.
Mayor Scapicchio: No, I understand that.
Mr. Tepper: So maybe we’d get a better bid if we go to all
four carriers.
Mr. Rattner: On bidding, from a legal standpoint, we put an ad
in the paper and that covers everybody else. Those are the bidding
laws, but I think in the past I don’t remember going out
to bid. Somebody would come in and we would negotiate because they
are all non-exclusive, and if we could get five companies, four
companies on one of our towers, we would do it because they can’t
stop us from leasing out any more. I don’t remember going
out to bid on the others.
Mr. Tepper: They’re actually mandated by law even if they
create their own tower that they have to lease space to others.
Mr. Rattner: Yes, but this was a little bit different because
you had to have somebody to be willing, the highest paid, to be
able to own the tower themselves which gives them a little control.
President Greenbaum: There certainly is a lot of legal advice
being thrown around here.
Mr. Rattner: Okay, I’ll put it in my comments tomorrow.
I don’t know what it is, but I’ll have my comments
tomorrow.
Mr. Sohl: Dominic can maybe answer the first question. I mean
if we have a water tower that’s already got pre-existing
leases on it and there’s space for a third, fourth, fifth,
do we have to go to bid?
Mr. DiYanni: What you have to do is you’ve got to read the
lease. There are different types of these leases. Some have, in
telecommunications, some have the lead bidder being the person
in charge administratively to get the co-location agreements together.
Some leases say to go out to bid. I think we have to look at the
lease first to see if there’s any language in that lease
currently on the water tower of how to proceed with more people
co-owning.
Mr. Sohl: With the existing carriers you mean?
Mr. DiYanni: Excuse me?
Mr. Sohl: The water tower is ours.
President Greenbaum: I would imagine it has to go out to bid.
Mr. DiYanni: It has to go out to bid…
Mr. Rattner: We never have before.
President Greenbaum: I would imagine it has to go out to bid just
like we’re doing anything else with any of our properties.
Mr. Sohl: That is my reaction also.
Mr. Rattner: Yes, but the problem is that we’ve been able
to negotiate. Suppose somebody comes in and only one more, you
know, another telephone company that doesn’t have a lease
comes and bids $22.
Mr. Sohl: Well we don’t have to accept the bid, right?
Mayor Scapicchio: You’d have to reject the bid.
President Greenbaum: I would imagine it has to go out to bid.
Mr. Rattner: But we haven’t before.
President Greenbaum: Yes, but that may be inaccurate. Mr. Dorsey
will give us his response on this, but I can’t imagine how
we could provide space with something to get a fee back and not
put it out to bid.
Mr. Sohl: I agree.
President Greenbaum: I mean it’s just contrary to, otherwise,
why couldn’t you simply sell the space to your brother in
law for $2?
Mr. Tepper: I think they did that with billboards earlier.
President Greenbaum: I just don’t think you can do it, as
an example.
Mr. Rattner: I think that if we put up on a water tower, when
we say it costs $25,000 if you want to lease space and we open
it up to everybody we don’t have to worry.
President Greenbaum: I think that what you can do probably is
put it out to bid with a minimum bid and that way it’s fair
to everybody.
Mr. Perkins: …space available. Water tanks…
Mr. Rattner: I want to make sure that whatever I do, we get there
because we’ve always negotiated them separately before.
President Greenbaum: I think that’s a good way to go. Let’s
find out how much we’re getting for space that we already
lease on ours, so that way you can get a minimum number and let’s
put it in the bid. The minimum starting number is “x” and
we will be accepting bids. I think that you can, as long as you
advertise, I agree with Mr. Rattner, you can contact the telephone
companies directly because you don’t have an obligation beyond
the advertisement to communicate with perspective bidders. The
fact that you decide to communicate with perspective bidders does
not open you up to liability by not… Once you have advertised
you have done the minimum that is required by law and everyone
is technically put on notice of the availability of the bid and
the right to participate. So let’s go that route.
Mrs. Labow: How does the water tower at Clover Hill work now with
all of the towers on it?
Mr. Tepper: How does it work?
Mrs. Labow: How are the charges being done?
Mr. Tepper: The same way. However the lease was set up.
Mrs. Labow: But we do, we manage that? We collect the fees or
someone else does?
Mr. Sohl: No we collect the fees.
Mr. Rattner: We do.
Mrs. Labow: We collect all of the fees for that, okay.
Mr. Rattner: Basically if you want to pay whatever it is, whatever
the percentage is, $25,000 we’ll take all comers.
Mrs. Labow: So we already have something in place that we’re
doing, so we would…
Mr. Rattner: Well we’re not doing it properly. We’ve
got to go forward and make sure.
Mrs. Labow: Well that’s the point I’m trying to make.
President Greenbaum: Okay, very good. Any other Administrative
matters?
Mr. Sohl: No.
OLD BUSINESS - none
NEW BUSINESS
President Greenbaum: Any New Business? Mr. Buell.
Mr. Buell: Yes, I’d like to add to next week’s Workshop
the irrigation system at Turkey Brook Park that has…
President Greenbaum: Who would you like to be present?
Mr. Buell: I think Tim Quinn and obviously Bill and…
President Greenbaum: Jim Lynch?
Mr. Buell: Jim Lynch as well.
President Greenbaum: Problems with the irrigation system particularly?
Mr. Buell: Well evidently Bill can probably update you better
than I can, but evidently the irrigation system at Turkey Brook
is completely shot. We’re using the Fire Truck from Flanders
to irrigate the fields at the current time. We have to evidently
rebuild the entire system or at least that’s the opinion
at this point in time.
President Greenbaum: I’ll put it on the Agenda for next
week. Can you please have Tim and Jim present?
Mr. Sohl: Will do.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Any other New Business? Any legal
matters this evening?
LEGAL MATTERS - none
COUNCIL REPORTS
Recreation Liaison Report
Mr. Tobey: Nothing to report.
Board of Health Report
Mrs. Labow: We meet tomorrow night.
Planning Board Report
Tepper: Meets on Thursday.
Board of Adjustment Liaison Report
Mr. Perkins: Nothing Mr. President.
Open Space Committee Report
Mrs. Labow: Yes, we had our meeting last night and as I said already
before with the Resolution, we had good news. We met early last
night at 5:30 p.m. and we took a tour around the Budd Lake section,
the Budd Lake area looking for a perfect, or the best option for
trail heads. As I spoke previously, there is a bicycle group that
wants to connect Allamuchy State Park with Crown Towers, I don’t
know we’re calling it Crown Towers, Fire Towers, whatever.
So we had a really nice, it was about an hour and a half tour,
two hours. We started about 5:30 and got back about 6:15 and we
did identify some key locations that will be coming to Council
to ask for permission to build the trail heads. One basically just
needs clearing out and another one might take a little more work,
but we’ll get further with that once we meet again.
President Greenbaum: Okay, thank you. I do note from being up
at Turkey Brook that they have made major movement on the Seward
House in terms of raising the roof in the area that had fallen.
At this point I would like to get a report from Kathy as to efforts
that are being made on behalf of the Township to get grants with
respect to completion of the Seward House. I would like to have
that next week.
Mrs. Labow: One other thing that happened a week ago Saturday,
Steve Rattner, myself, Kathy Murphy, and Laura Szwak met with the
Open Space County Committee. We had a potential property, it was
a very good Mrs. Labow (cont’d): meeting and we actually
had lunch over on the little Oasis Beach island thing at Budd Lake
Beach afterwards. It was excellent, and an excellent afternoon.
President Greenbaum: Thank you for doing that on behalf of the
Township.
Mrs. Labow: You’re welcome, thank you.
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Buell: None to report.
Pride Committee Liaison Report
Mr. Perkins: Yes Mr. President, we’ve been finishing up
some of the decorations around the Welcome signs as well as the
Plaza down at 206. They’re looking at working with Zoning
on some “temporary permanent” signs to acknowledge
the receipt of goods in kind from some local businesses that they’ve
been working together with.
Board of Education Liaison Report
Mr. Buell: They’re meeting as we speak.
Lake/Environment Issues Committee
Mr. Rattner: I didn’t attend the quarterly meeting last
week because of some family issues, but they did discuss the proposed
Dock Ordinance changes. What was found is that the Planning Board
decided to do a very comprehensive rewrite of the entire Ordinance
which went a lot further than what they had been asking for. So
they’re going to take some more time to really understand
what all the issues are.
President Greenbaum: That’s fine. Would you please report… What’s
that?
Mrs. Lashway: Clean up is this weekend.
President Greenbaum: Clean up is this weekend 9:00, on Saturday?
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Would you please let me know when the Dock
Ordinance should or should not be re-listed for First Reading based
upon the readiness of the Lake Committee to move forward with the
Ordinance.
Mr. Rattner: Right, I think the Lake Committee will be sending
a memo to you just discussing what they did and extra time if they
need it.
President Greenbaum: Okay that’s fine. We won’t list
it until we hear back from the Lake Committee. Safety Committee,
Mr. Perkins?
Safety Committee Liaison
Mr. Perkins: Meeting in two weeks.
Finance Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Economic Development Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Solid Waste Advisory Committee Report
Mrs. Labow: Meets tomorrow night.
Library Board Liaison
Mr. Tepper: Meets tomorrow night.
PUBLIC PORTION - none
COUNCIL COMMENTS - none
Motion was made and seconded, all in favor and none opposed, the
meeting was adjourned at 8:03 pm.
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Robert J. Greenbaum, Council President
I, LISA M. LASHWAY, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive
do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and correct
copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the
Mount Olive Township Council duly held on October 23, 2007.
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Lisa M. Lashway, Township Clerk
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