The Regular Public Meeting of the
Mount Olive Township Council was called
to Order at 7:30 pm by
Council President Greenbaum with the
Pledge of Allegiance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & MOMENT OF
REFLECTION in recognition of the men
and women fighting terrorism and those
who have lost their lives defending the
freedom we all enjoy
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings
Act, adequate notice of this meeting
has been given to the Mount Olive
Chronicle. Notice has been posted
at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey
and notices were sent to those requesting
the same.
ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Buell, Mr.
Tepper, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Rattner,
Mrs. Labow, Mr. Greenbaum
Absent: Mr. Biondi
Also Present: John Dorsey, Township
Attorney; Rick Prill, Business Administrator;
Sherry Jenkins, CFO; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk
Questions on Bill List?
President Greenbaum: Mr. Biondi called
me and advised me that he would not
be able to make it this evening. I
note that there were some questions
on the Bill List I saw were submitted
by Mr. Rattner, was it?
Mr. Rattner: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Is the Administration
prepared at the end of the meeting
to answer whatever questions Mr. Rattner
had?
Mr. Rattner: I already got it through
the Clerk’s office.
President Greenbaum: If you have any
questions on it, you can ask Steve
after the meeting. Does anyone else
have any questions on the Bill List
that were not submitted?
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
Sept. 26, 2006 CS
Present: Mr. Buell, Mrs. Labow, Mr.
Tepper, Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Rattner
Absent: Mr. Perkins & Mr. Biondi
Oct. 3, 2006 CS
Present: Mr. Buell, Mrs. Labow, Mr.
Tepper, Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Rattner,
Mr. Perkins & Mr. Biondi
Absent: None
Oct. 3, 2006 Special Meeting
Present: Mr. Tepper, Mr. Buell, Mr.
Biondi, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Rattner,
Mr. Greenbaum
Absent: Mrs. Labow
President Greenbaum: Seeing none.
We will move on with Approval of Minutes.
Mr. Buell, do you want to move those
please?
Mr. Buell: Thank you, I move the September
26, 2006 CS, October 3, 2006 CS, October
3, 2006 Special Meeting Minutes.
Mr. Tepper: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded.
Anyone have any comments, deletions,
corrections? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously with
the exception, Mrs. Labow abstained
on October 3, 2006 Special Meeting,
Mr. Perkins abstained on September
26, 2006 Closed Session.
CORRESPONDENCE
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS / ORGANIZATIONS
1. Letter received September 25, 2006,
from ASCAP regarding “ASCAP licensing.”
2. Letter received September 25, 2006,
from Heidi Coscia regarding request
for retro pay.
3. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from Adam Szwick regarding support
of the Library.
4. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from Willard Sawyer III regarding support
of the Library.
5. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from S. Hughes regarding support of
the Library.
6. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from Ellen Van Glahn regarding support
of the Library.
7. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from Debra Tulin regarding support
of the Library.
8. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from Judith Isler regarding support
of the Library.
9. E-mail received September 26, 2006,
from Joanne Saito-Rosequist regarding
support of the Library.
10. E-mail received September 26,
2006, from Alice Bauer regarding support
of the Library.
11. E-mail received September 26,
2006, from Natasha Andrews regarding
support of the Library.
12. Letter received September 27,
2006, from Hackettstown Elks Lodge
#2331 regarding “Open House.”
13. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from The Cottrell Family regarding
support of the Library.
14. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from The Pang Family regarding
support of the Library.
15. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from John McCallack regarding
support of the Library.
16. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from Pat McCallack regarding
support of the Library.
17. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from Marina Szwick regarding
support of the Library.
18. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from Mike Sawyer regarding support
of the Library.
19. Letter received October 2, 2006,
from ADPPBBL, Inc. regarding Fall Cleanup.
20. E-mail received October 5, 206,
from Sherry Lemma regarding support
of the Library.
MUA / HMUA / MSA
21. Information received October 2,
2006, from Morris County Municipal
Utilities Authority regarding the 19th
Annual Morris County Recycling Awards
Dinner.
22. List of Allocations received October
4, 2006, from the Musconetcong Sewerage
Authority.
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
23. Letter received September 25,
2006, from New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding League
Seminar on “How to Put State
Resources for Affordable Housing to
Work for Your Community.”
24. Letter received September 27,
2006, from New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding 2006 Conference
Resolutions.
25. Letter received October 4, 2006,
from Morris County League of Municipalities
regarding League Luncheon.
RESOLUTIONS / ORDINANCES / INFO FROM
OTHER TOWNS
26. Resolution received September
26, 2006, from Township of Hanover
regarding Defense and Indemnification
of Municipal Police Officers and Police
Departments voluntarily serving on
State and County Law Enforcement Task
Forces.
27. Resolution received September
27, 2006, from Township of Parsippany-Troy
Hills regarding Defense and Indemnification
of Municipal Police Officers and Police
Departments voluntarily serving on
State and County Law Enforcement Task
Forces.
28. Resolution received September
29, 2006, from Borough of Madison regarding
Defense and Indemnification of Municipal
Police Officers and Police Departments
voluntarily serving on State and County
Law Enforcement Task Forces.
29. Resolution received October 2,
2006, from Township of Hanover regarding
Defense and Indemnification of Law
Enforcement Officers.
30. Corrected Resolution received
October 6, 2006, from Township of Hanover
regarding concerning Defense and Indemnification
of Law Enforcement Officers.
MORRIS COUNTY
31. Minutes of the August 17, 2006,
meeting of the Morris County Planning
Board received September 28, 2006.
MISCELLANEOUS.
32. Letter received September 27,
2006, from State of New Jersey, Department
of State regarding PARIS Grant Program.
33. Letter received September 27,
2006, from County of Morris, Department
of Public Works regarding Deer Carcass
Removal.
34. E-mail received September 28,
2006, from National League of Cities
regarding Scholarships for NLC Members
to participate in the LTI Seminars
at the 2006 Congress Cities Conference.
35. Letter received September 29,
2006, from Robert Brown regarding designation
of property for Block 4500, Lots 35
and 36 (104-106 Route 46 and 3 Eden
Lane).
36. Letter received October 5, 2006,
from The Port Authority of NY & NJ
regarding enhanced Inter-City Air and
Rail Service.
DOT / DEP / LOI HIGHLANDS
37. Letter received September 25,
2006, from State of New Jersey, Department
of Environmental Protection regarding
Extension of a Letter of Interpretation
Applicant: The Rose House Block 2507,
Lot 1 (1 Dogwood Drive, Budd Lake).
38. Notice received September 26,
2006, from State of New Jersey, Department
of Environmental Protection, Highlands
Water Protection and Planning Council
regarding Public Notice of the next
meeting of the Highlands Municipal
Property Tax Stabilization Board.
39. Letter received September 28,
2006, from Glasson Environmental Services,
LLC regarding Application for Highlands
Applicability & Water Quality Management
Plan Consistency Determination Block
5100, Lot 3 (43 Ramar Street, Budd
Lake).
40. Letter received September 27,
2006, from State of New Jersey, Department
of Environmental Protection regarding
Deficiency Letter for Individual Permit
Transition Area Waiver. Applicant:
Maroon Abraham Block 3001, Lot 2 (8
Third Street, Budd Lake)
LETTERS FROM LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
41. E-mail received September 29,
2006, from Congressman Frelinghuysen
regarding House approves over $44 million
in defense bill for Picatinny Arsenal,
Military Commissions Bill passes House,
House moves to secure personal information,
and House passes Homeland Security
Appropriations Bill.
DCA
42. E-mail received September 27,
2006, from Department of Community
Affairs regarding Innovation in Governance
Awards, PAMS Project update, Surety
bonds and JIF, Local Finance Notice
2006-14, State Aid Recapitulation and
Payment Schedule for CFO’s, Shared
Services, and New Jersey Economic Development
Seminar.
43. E-mail received October 2, 2006,
from Department of Community Affairs
regarding 2006 Innovation in Governance
Awards.
COAH
44. Letter received October 2, 2006,
from State of New Jersey, Council on
Affordable Housing regarding rejection
of filing of the amendment to Petition.
45. Letter received October 6, 2006,
from State of New Jersey, Council on
Affordable Housing regarding rejection
of filing of the amendment to petition.
UTILTIES
46. Fax received September 28, 2006,
from Comcast regarding Universal Connectivity
Charge.
President Greenbaum: There are 46
pieces of Correspondence. Does anyone
wish to discuss any particular piece
of Correspondence? Seeing none, we
will move on to ordinances for public
hearing.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
President Greenbaum: Tonight we have
one Ordinance #29-2006 entitled:
Ord. #29-2006 Bond Ordinance of the
Township of Mount Olive, in the County
of Morris, New Jersey Amending Bond
Ordinance Numbered 11-2001 Finally
Adopted May 8, 2001, as Previously
Amended and Supplemented, in Order
to Further Amend the Description of
the Project Authorized Therein.
President Greenbaum: Is there anyone
from the public who wishes to be heard
on Ordinance #29-2006? Seeing none,
I close it to the public. I would ask
that Mr. Tepper please move Ordinance
#29-2006 for approval.
Mr. Tepper: Thank you, Mr. President.
I move Ordinance #29-2006 for approval.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Rattner: Second.
President Greenbaum: Are there any
comments? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance # 29-2006
has passed on second reading and I
hereby direct the Clerk to forward
a copy of same to the Mayor and publish
the notice of adoption as required
by law.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING (2nd
Reading November 28, 2006)
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #30-2006
entitled:
Ord. #30-2006 An Ordinance of the
Township Council of the Township of
Mount Olive to Amend the Salaries of
Certain Non-Union Personnel for the
Year 2006.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Buell, do
you want to move that please?
Mr. Buell: Yes, thank you. I move
that Ordinance #30-2006 be introduced
by title, and passed on first reading,
and that a meeting be held on November
28, 2006 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal
Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road,
Mount Olive, New Jersey, for public
hearing, consideration of second reading
and passage of said Ordinance, and
that the Clerk be directed to publish,
post and make available said Ordinance
in accordance with the requirements
of the law.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded.
Any discussion from Council? Roll Call
please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda
List are considered to be routine and
non-controversial by the Township Council
and will be approved by one motion
(one vote). There will be no separate
discussion or debate on each of these
resolutions except for the possibility
of brief clarifying statements that
may be offered. If one or more Council
member requests, any individual resolution
on the Consent Agenda may be removed
from the Consent Agenda List and acted
on separately.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
1. Resolution of the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive Awarding
a Contract to Hoover Truck Center for
Supplying a Multi-Purpose Vehicle Chassis & Rack
Body with Hydraulic Lift.
2. Resolution of the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive Awarding
a Contract to Hoover Truck Center for
Supplying a Single Axel Dump Truck
with Plow.
3. Resolution of the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive Awarding
Bids for Snowplowing Services for the
2006-2007 Winter Season.
4. Resolution of the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing
an Interlocal Health Services Agreement
with the Borough of Mt. Arlington for
the Provision of Health Services Pursuant
to the Interlocal Services Act (N.J.S.A.
26:38A2-1 et seq.)
5. Resolution of the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive Requesting
Approval from the Director of the Division
of Local Government Services for Insertion
of a Specific Item of Revenue into
the 2006 Municipal Budget ($2,625 for
a Donation for Pediatric Defibrillators).
6. Resolution of the Township Council
of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing
the Cancellation of Taxes for the Year
2005 and 2006 and for Removal From
Tax Sale Block 8400, Lot 11 K-Land
No. 51, LLC.
7. Resolution of the Township of Mount
Olive Approving a Contract with Realty
Appraisal Co. for the Preparation and
Execution of a Complete Program of
Revaluation.
8. Resolution of the Township Council,
Township of Mount Olive Authorizing
a Contract with Barry Krauser, MAI,
CRE of Integra Realty Resources to
Perform a Portion of the 2008 Revaluation
for the Township of Mount Olive.
9. Resolution to Waive Limitation
of Turkey Brook Park Hours of Operation
for the Mount Olive Soccer Club.
10. Resolution Overriding the Mayor’s
Veto of Ordinance #25-2006 Entitled “An
Ordinance Establishing a Police Department
in Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: I am going to
remove #10 and put that on the Non
Consent. Are there any others that
anyone here wishes to move to Non Consent?
Seeing none. Mrs. Labow, do you want
to move resolutions #1-9?
Mrs. Labow: I move resolutions #1-9.
Mr. Tepper: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded.
Is there anyone from the public who
wishes to be heard on resolutions #1-9?
I close it to the public.
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Any Council discussion
with respect to resolutions #1-9? Is
it brief Mr. Buell?
Mr. Buell: Yes, very brief. The Soccer
Club extension for a month for having
lights on field #2, does anyone know
what time that extends to? Is that
going to be 10:00 or 11:00?
President Greenbaum: Fred, do you
want to come up to the podium? You
have to state your name and address
and position with the Soccer Club.
Fred Philips Adam Court, Budd Lake:
I am president of the Soccer Club.
Your question? I am sorry.
Mr. Buell: Yes, just what time are
you going to turn those lights off
and how do we make sure that they get
turned off?
Mr. Philips: Through agreement with
the Parks Department. We don’t
need them on passed 8:30.
Mr. Buell: Okay.
Mr. Philips: So if it’s timers
or the park... we are willing to work
with the park. If they say it is 8:30,
its 8:30 and we will turn them off.
Mr. Buell: This is going to be for
a month, I understand.
Mr. Philips: We want to do a test
to see.... we asked for a month because
when talking to Jim Lynch in the Parks
Department, he wanted to see the amount
of wear and tear on the field, given
the extra hours. We wanted to see what’s
involved in doing it? So a month seems
like a reasonable amount of time.
Mr. Buell: You will be doing this
every night or just weekends?
Mr. Philips: For the most part it’s
Tuesday through Friday. That is when
most of our practices are and Monday
the parks are closed for maintenance.
Mr. Buell: This would just be for
regular practices?
Mr. Philips: Regular practices and
then we also have our Halloween Tournament
on the 21st, which is a Saturday and
28th, which is a Saturday. We will
leave those on probably until about
7:00 at night just so we can clean
up and get out of there in a reasonable
fashion.
Mr. Buell: Do the people who live
there, particularly on Sunset, know
that this is going to happen?
Mr. Philips: We just started talking
about it now. I don’t think so.
Mr. Buell: My only comment is and
I would be in favor, it sounds like,
that this is a trial period? I think
that we need to inform the people on
Sunset Drive that this is going to
happen.
President Greenbaum: Jim, you know
what? There was significant enough
question that you should have put it
on the Non Consent Resolutions Agenda.
In a brief clarifying statement on
Consent Resolutions Agenda is exactly
what it means. So if you want to at
this point, make a motion to amend
or to take this off for further discussion?
I am happy to do that...
Mr. Philips: Mr. Buell, if I could
just interrupt for a second? After
talking to Jim Lynch, the lights that
they are talking about go a maximum
of 30 feet in the air that he is talking
about putting on field #2, which is
the field that is the furthest away
from Sunset Drive. I think it will
have little or no impact. Again, 30
feet is the highest, we can send that,
20 feet, whatever is deemed appropriate.
So I think the impact on Sunset Drive
is minimal at best.
President Greenbaum: Jim, you also
have to remember that this is a test
for us as well and to the extent that
there are going to be issues, we are
going to identify them and we may have
to amend this resolution down the road
but to the extent that there are problems,
you know, 8:30, sounds like a fairly
reasonable time to conclude and it
doesn’t seem like anyone could
really have a major problem with 8:30?
Mr. Tepper: They do football at CMS
until that time.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Does
anyone else have anything? Is that
it?
Mr. Buell: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Any other comments
on the Consent Resolutions Agenda?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
President Greenbaum: We have one Resolution
on the Non Consent Resolutions Agenda
entitled:
10. Resolution Overriding the Mayor’s
Veto of Ordinance #25-2006 Entitled “An
Ordinance Establishing a Police Department
in Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner,
could you move that for me please?
Mr. Rattner: I move Resolution #10.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded.
I removed it from the Consent Resolutions
Agenda because it requires a super
majority to override the Mayor’s
Veto. The Mayor indicated that he vetoed
the ordinance because of the choice
of chief and/or other superior officers
should not be limited to the present
membership of the police force but
based upon the needs and requirements
of the Township at the time of the
choice, which sounds like a fairly
reasonable explanation for vetoing
the ordinance except for several things.
Number one is the operation of law.
Number two is the fact that this ordinance
which was incredibly expensive to advertise,
we had to advertise twice actually,
which came from the Administration
itself. It was extremely problematic
to me that the Mayor is vetoing ordinances
that come from the Administration.
I wrote Mr. Prill a memo and we have
now changed procedure so that every
resolution and every ordinance which
is coming from the Administration from
this point forward, as long as Mayor
De La Roche is still in office, is
going to have to be signed off by him.
Otherwise it is not getting on the
Agenda. It is a complete waste of our
time as a Council to deal with this
kind of garbage, any comments? Before
I get to you, Mr. Tepper, is there
anyone in the audience who wishes to
be heard on this particular resolution?
Seeing none, I close it to the audience.
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Did you have
something Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: My comment is fairly consistent
with what you said. Originally, I thought
it was somewhat reasonable to entertain
bringing in the best qualified candidate
and looking possibly outside for the
chief’s position. It was made
clear to me that the current law directed
how that was to be filled and knowing
that, it makes no sense to contradict
the law. So I agree with your position.
President Greenbaum: Any other comments?
Mr. Perkins: Thank you, Mr. President.
I had some real problem with the Mayor’s
veto of this ordinance. Again, that
was brought up to us by the Administration
as you had pointed out. It is a matter
of law of how that position is to be
filled, that not withstanding, who
better to serve the Township in the
position of the Chief of Police than
someone who has come up through the
ranks in this Township? This isn’t
Newark, it’s not Jersey City,
where we can get Bernard Kerrick to
come over and he would know all about
New York City and he might help fill
the shoes to help Mayor Corey A. Booker
run Newark. That is not Mount Olive.
Mount Olive has grown into what it
is and it needs the people watching
it grow, that they know where the hot
spots are and for that reason alone,
I would have voted no. Thank you, Mr.
President.
Mrs. Labow: I just wanted to ask Mr.
Prill a question. Did Mayor De La Roche
have any prior reading? Did he read
the ordinance? Did he ask any questions
before he vetoed it or did he just
decide to veto?
Mr. Prill: He did not address any
questions to me, prior to his veto.
Mrs. Labow: Or Chief Katona that you
know of?
Mr. Prill: Not that I am aware of,
no.
Mrs. Labow: Okay.
President Greenbaum: Any other comments?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
OLD BUSINESS
President Greenbaum: We are up to
Old Business. The first item on Old
Business which is not listed here involves
the capital.......what, the motions?
Yes, we will get to the motions. I
want to get to the Old Business. Mr.
Prill, we had asked the Administration
for a list of capital so that we could
move the fire and rescue squads’ request
for, I believe, extra patient equipment
and radio equipment. I note that it
is not on the Agenda this evening.
We still have not gotten a priority
list from the Administration in terms
of where we are going with our capital
purchases. I would like to get an explanation
from you as to why we do not have that
information.
Mr. Prill: I am still waiting on a
couple of items to be clarified. Mr.
Quinn is looking into two of the old
balances to identify whether there
is a need to continue those or whether
they can be cancelled. I am also communicating
with the Budd Lake Rescue Squad with
regards to some of their old capital
items.
President Greenbaum: Okay, I am telling
you that I am listing this for the
workshop next Tuesday and the following
public meeting next Tuesday and this
will get resolved and be put on the
Agenda for those two Council Meetings.
We will get to the bottom of the capital
at that time.
Mr. Rattner: Time is of the essence
because from what I understand, as
it relates to the Budd Lake Rescue
Squad, the benefactor who is providing
the major part of the funds is looking
for the commitment from the Town and
has been waiting for a period of time.
We have been bringing it up at almost
every meeting. It is becoming critical
mass now that if we don’t get
it, we can actually lose it. I don’t
want another project or some other
funds that we miss out on just because
of lack of action.
Status of Library Grant Monies to
be Turned Over to Twp.
President Greenbaum: Staying with
Old Business. Mr. Prill.
Mr. Prill: No other information has
been forthcoming from the Library Board.
President Greenbaum: Let me ask you
a question. Has the Administration
requested that the Library turn over
that money to the Township?
Mr. Prill: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Okay, because
I got all......and I thank you for
responding to my memos requesting back
and forth between the Administration
and the Library with respect to the
last voucher for monies due to the
Library. It seemed to me that there
was very little pressure put on the
Library with respect to the turn over
of that money. In fact, it seemed just
the opposite. It seemed to me that
it was, “Well let’s see
what happens if we put it on the Agenda?” Certainly,
the issue of that $100,000 was identified.
It was brought to your attention and
yet you allowed it to go on to the
Agenda without advising Council. That,
in fact, it was the Administration’s
position that it was going to be put
on the Agenda in that fashion. I would
like to get an explanation from you
as to why it was handled in that fashion.
Mr. Prill: We have received a request
from the Library Board for their last
quarter payment to be put on the Bill
List. During that....emails back an
forth, it was not discussed in any
particular specificity, that the payment
request was going to be inclusive of
the $100,000 that the Council has been
requesting that it be returned. I was
unaware that the payment request actually
included that amount and I did indicate
that to you.
President Greenbaum: Yes you did.
In my reading of those emails, and
I think that everybody has a copy of
them now, it clearly was discussed.
It was certainly a discussion from
the CFO to your office indicating that
that $100,000 was included in the number
and whether or not that matter should
be discussed with Council before putting
the bill on the Bill List. Your response
basically was, “No, let’s
wait and see what happens?”
I don’t mean to necessarily paraphrase
because there were a series of emails
and it may have been... your response
may have been at the end of the series
of emails but that is basically the
gist that I got from your email and
I would ask anyone else on Council
if they got that same gist from reading
of the emails or if anyone got an opposite
view as to what happened with respect
to that payment voucher? It seemed
to me that you understood what Council’s
position was. You understood the issue
that was being presented in terms of
placing that $100,000 back on the Bill
List. You advised the CFO that it was
not.... generally advised the CFO that
it wasn’t necessary to discuss
it with Council and let’s just
see what happens? I find that to be
wholly inappropriate. Your response?
Mr. Prill: I take exception to your
characterization of that correspondence
to and from the Library Board and the
CFO.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone have
those emails?
Mrs. Labow: I have it right here.
President Greenbaum: Can I have that
for a second? Thanks.
Mrs. Labow: I have the one part opened
up where he says, see how they react?
President Greenbaum: In an email dated
September 18, 2006, Sherry Jenkins,
the CFO indicated, “I received
a voucher in my mail this morning from
the Library for their original appropriation.
The total request was $446,553.73 which
represents their original Appropriation
$1,086,750 less $640,195.27 in payments
(should be $640,196.27) The current
balance in the appropriation is $367,759.25
because we have fronted $24,016.60
for health insurance that they haven’t
reimburse us for, have about $42,500
encumbered through year–end for
health benefits and paid their annual
pension bill of $12,398 via their appropriation.
Do you want to discuss this payment
with the Council or have me put a payment
on the Bill List absent that?” You
responded, “First, I think you
need to go back to Rita with a simple
calculation showing the original appropriation
less any deductions which you have
outlined below, showing the net figure
which is different from what she has
submitted a voucher for. If she is
not in agreement with the net figure,
then we will need to get that resolved
before including the voucher on an
upcoming Bill List. Second, I think
we need to indicate that it is unlikely
that Council would approve the payment
given that a response from the Library
Board has not been forthcoming as yet
regarding the grant fund issue and
that Council would most likely hold
the payment pending this response.” Before
I read on with this, was it your indication....was
it your thought at this point in time
that your response didn’t relate
to the $100,000, it only related to
what was in Sherry’s email? Or
where you responding to Sherry with
respect to $100,000?
Mr. Prill: I was responding to the
request that Sherry had received regarding
the entire payment request that had
been submitted by the Library Board.
President Greenbaum: Okay. Were you
aware of the fact that it included
the $100,000?
Mr. Prill: As I had indicated, I was
not reading into it that that payment
request included the $100,000.
President Greenbaum: Did you at any
point in time discuss with Sherry that
the payment request from the Library
included the $100,000 before it was
put on the Bill List?
Mr. Prill: Just a general reference
that I did not believe that Council
would be inclined to approve the entire
payment request given that the issue
of $100,000 was still outstanding.
That was the response to potentially
give the Library Director a heads up
of that concern.
President Greenbaum: To give the Library
Director a heads up, that what?
Mr. Prill: That the issue of the $100,000
was still outstanding and that Council
might not be inclined to approve the
payment request given that that issue
was still outstanding and had not been
resolved.
President Greenbaum: Has the Council
ever taken a position with respect
to any monies which were due the Library
other than the $100,000? Have we ever
taken a position that we are not going
to pay them except that $100,000 that
they refuse to turn over to the Township?
Mr. Prill: There has been considerable
discussion by Council with regards
to the $100,000 and I did not know
how Council was going to react.
President Greenbaum: I don’t
think you are answering my question.
I am simply asking you whether or not
the Council, since you have been sitting
up here, has ever discussed not paying
the Library anything that we were required
to pay them except for the $100,000?
Mr. Prill: I think indirectly there
has been conversation to that effect,
yes.
President Greenbaum: When did that
conversation take place because I must
not have been here.
Mr. Prill: I don’t recall the
particular dates but I do recall Mrs.
Jenkins indicating to Council on at
least one occasion maybe more that
statutorily we are required to make
full payment to the Library come year
end.
President Greenbaum: Yes. I don’t
disagree with that statement but when
did we ever discuss not paying them
anything other than the $100,000 which
we have withheld? Do you understand
what the nature of that $100,000 dispute
is Mr. Prill?
Mr. Prill: It has to do with grant
funding.
President Greenbaum: Yes. What is
it specifically with respect to that
$100,000 that Council has a problem
with in terms of the Library withholding
that money?
Mr. Prill: That the Library is holding
money that should be turned over to
the Township.
President Greenbaum: Why should it
be turned over to the Township?
Mr. Prill: All other grant funds
have been turned over to the Township.
President Greenbaum: Why is that Mr.
Prill? I am trying to find out exactly
what your understanding is as to this
dispute. Are you aware of the fact
that that $100,000 has already been
spent by the Township and to the extent
that if that money isn’t turned
over by Township, that the Library
project in essence will cost us an
additional $100,000 all to the benefit
of the Library which continues to withhold
monies that it owes to the Township.
In fact, the State has withheld significant
amounts of money with respect to any
monies that might have to be returned
to the State in the event that the
project comes in under what it was
originally budgeted for. That money
has already been spent by the Township
and the Library refuses to turn that
money over. The net result is that
the project will cost the taxpayers
of Mount Olive an additional $100,000
simply because the Library will not
turn that money over. That is what
the nature of the dispute is and your
response, whether you meant it or whether
or not you simply decided not to deal
with it, is just inappropriate because
the Administration should be taking
the position in light of the way that
this project was funded, that the Library
Board should be required to turn over
that money. Not simply to indicate
that the Council may have a problem
with paying them money. The Administration’s
position is, Library, you need to turn
over that money so that we can resolve
this and move on. It shows a complete
lack of leadership on the part of the
Administration to have allowed this
to fester as long as it has and to
make the Council look bad with respect
to public relations in terms of the
fact that that money has not been turned
over. The Administration should be
at the forefront of resolving this
issue and it doesn’t take much
to sit down as Business Administrator
or as a Mayor, to sit down and say
look, this money is being turned over.
It has already been spent by the Township
and we are not going to allow the Library
to hold on to the money and we will
guarantee you that if the State comes
back for money, the Township will be
responsible to pay it back. So, your
position as to why you’re withholding
this money simply has no merit whatsoever.
Instead what we get is, “Oh,
we will just put it on and let’s
see what Council is going to do with
it.” Anyone else have any comments
on this?
Mr. Rattner: Well just in the future,
we are possibly costing the Township
money. For one thing, it’s already
costing, we already spent the money
so either we are borrowing it because
we went out and committed to borrow
$4,144,926.00 and that money, most
of it has been spent, that’s
number one. Number two, what I am really
upset about is the last payment when
we deducted the $100,000.00. We took
the heat. We went back and forth with
all the different rhetoric and it was
done, telling them that we’re
serious. To put it back on and to take
the position and then have to read
about it because obviously, certain
people were given specific pieces of
information so we can be attacked a
second time a month before an election.
We know exactly what was being done.
I think to actually defame the Town,
which is the government, its people,
by continuing to let this fester I
think is unfair and just leaves us
open to public ridicule. One other
thing that hasn’t been brought
up before and I think is very very
important and these are the agreements
that we had with the Library. One was
that they were going to turn over the
money. That was actually negotiated
when we said we would go ahead with
the Library and provide and extra $644,000.00
that they requested after we already
appropriated the $3.5 million, that
they said they could build a Library
for and it was negotiated saying that
we wanted to have control over it,
that we would review the vouchers because
it was the taxpayers of Mount Olive
that we had to go get the money but
here’s the last thing. We don’t
hear anything about, one of the agreements
and I actually found it in the loan
agreement, that is, that the Library
committed to raising the money to buy
the furniture for the Library. That
was their commitment. In fact, to get
the loan they had to tell the State
that that is what they were doing because
they wanted to see some local contribution
of the Library itself. They committed
$344,500.00. We know last year when
they came to us or a year and a half
ago, they said they had trouble raising
funds. They were able to raise about
$60,000.00, guess who came to the rescue?
Not what was originally agreed to,
not that we had all the money. Just
because we have a bond, we still have
to fiscally borrow it and pay the interest.
We came up with the money that was
not in the agreement and covered them
for the furniture that they couldn’t
afford to buy. We are talking about
a $250,000.00. So not only did we pay,
and I want to make sure that everyone
understands it, not only did we pay
all the bills for the construction
and the money has been spent but then
we came up and we covered them because
they could not raise and we understood
how difficult it is to raise funds,
another $250,000.00 and they are still
playing around and I think this is
with the Administration.
Mr. Rattner (Cont’d): If you
remember about a year ago, it was the
Administration who came to us and said
we have a problem. They are not turning
over the money. This did not come from
the Council. This wasn’t an attack
from the Council about the Library.
It was the Administration came to us,
and said that they are withholding
funds that we already spent. It is
due us. We have a receivable and it
wasn’t done. This is why it gets
so frustrating. This is why I can’t
believe that it cannot be an administratively
resolved. We know the Mayor goes to
most of the Library Board Meetings.
He is the one that has to run the government.
He is the one who authorized through
your office, all the spending of the
money. To keep getting this back, thrown
in our face, no matter how accommodating
we are supposed to be and we have been.
I think the fact that we provided the
funds out of the bond so that they
could buy the furniture, it’s
actually in violation of the grant
because they were supposed to raise
that. I think that shows we have gone
more than half way. We have gone 100%
of the way in trying to keep them afloat
and getting everything done and we
are still down here, we still have
to go up to the public ridicule. The
whole county has to keep talking about....look
it’s Mount Olive again, they
can’t get along. This is just
totally absurd and when it still continues…we
settled the $ 100,000 in July and then
we had to get it again. I think that
was designed on purpose.
Mrs. Labow: Mr. Prill, could you ask
the Library Board if they are aware
that the State has already withheld
$63,000 just in case money had to be
returned and verify that amount? I
think I am getting the thumbs up, no?
The $63,000 the State has already held
is that right.....because their whole
thing is they keep saying they have
to hold on to it because they have
to return it but money has already
been held correct?
Mrs. Jenkins: Yes, the State is holding
on to the money. They have not released
the full amount of the grant and I
did send everybody an email. I got
a phone call from somebody from the
State Library and I am waiting to hear
back from her. I spent awhile on the
phone with her explaining the situation
and I would like to know if the bottom
line is, whether we have to return
any sort of money at all or not. I
am waiting to hear back on that.
President Greenbaum: Sherry, while
you are up here, when is the first
time that you requested that the money
be turned back over from the Library
to a......was it at or about the time
that they received the $100,000?
Mrs. Jenkins: I initially spoke about
the matter with Bob Casey when he was
here, and it was about the time that
they got the funds, yes.
President Greenbaum: That money has
already been spent by the Township
with respect to the Library project,
isn’t that correct?
Mrs. Jenkins: In terms of capital,
the way that it normally works is you
perceive that the money that is funded
is spent first, so yes.
President Greenbaum: That is the way
that the project was set up, from an
accounting perspective.
Mrs. Jenkins: From an accounting perspective
yes. We set up the receivable and Steve
was right, we did have discussions
about the fact that any grant monies
that were going to be received would
obviously be coming to the Township
because we funded the project.
President Greenbaum: Not only that,
it was embodied in a resolution at
the time.
Mrs. Jenkins: Yes it was.
Mrs. Labow: Sherry had also brought
it to my attention when I was a Council
Liaison and I did specifically ask
them at the meeting and they told me
they didn’t have to hand it over
but the question that I want, Mr. Prill,
if you could ask them? Are they aware
that the State is holding on to money
because their reasoning behind keeping
that $100,000 is just in case they
have to send any money back? Since
the State has already kind of taken
that into consideration, there is no
need for them to be holding onto that
$100,000 at all. So if we can just
resolve.....Sherry has already been
in contact.....
Mrs. Jenkins: I sent their attorney
any number of pieces of correspondence
and I did indicate that in the information
that I sent her which was probably,
I want to say, is about three or four
months ago at this point.
Mrs. Labow: They are aware of it.
Mrs. Jenkins: Yes.
Mr. Rattner: Sherry, besides everything
that has already been said, isn’t
the grant program just like almost
every other grant program based on
reimbursement with the exception
of design which you can get an allowance
on the front. The only way you get
any of that grant money is by showing
you already spent the money because
we have to upfront the money. We
pay the bills when we approve the
vendor voucher and then we send it
off right away. We actually should
probably do it even before we put
it on the Bill List. The State will
not send you money on a grant program
until you have already spent the
money. So the whole thing about the
$100,000, unless they do an audit
and they find out, they call it a
true up, unless they do an audit
on the Library and find out that
they spent money on items that were
not allowed because not every expense
is allowable, they only gave us money.
So the whole thing about worrying
about paying it back is completely
bogus because it is a reimbursement
program. It’s not where they
give you the money up front because
they don’t want you playing
and making a lot of interest and
everything else on it. It is a reimbursement
program, they know it. If they said
that they didn’t know what
the contract is and their attorney,
then they know that is absolutely
fact and this whole thing about worrying
about paying it back is bogus unless
they know there is something wrong
with their books.
President Greenbaum: Alright, any
other comments? Thank you very much
Sherry.
Mrs. Labow: Speaking of audits, did
we get theirs yet?
President Greenbaum: No.
Mr. Rattner: No because they can’t
figure out what the spending is.
President Greenbaum: Okay, Status
of Charter Farms.
Mr. Rattner: That and we can’t
get a piece of equipment to the fire
department and they are spending $450,000,000
that we can’t get accountability
on.
Status of Charters Farm
Mr. Prill: We have been advised by
Joe Norton of Norcon that they will
be submitting a proposal to us. We
hope to have that next week based on
some more recent testing that we had
done on the soil itself. We believe
that his price would come in at least
$25,000 less than the other proposal
that we received and at least $50,000
less than another proposal that we
received. We are anxiously awaiting
his proposal and identification of
how the contaminated soil can be disposed
of. If we have that before next Tuesday,
we will certainly bring that back to
Council or it might be the following
meeting.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Any
questions or comments?
DPW Project Budget Report
Mr. Prill: I have provided Council
with the financial status of the project.
Hopefully, it’s in a format that
Council was looking for. We are receiving
bids tomorrow on the site improvement
phase as well as the interior fit out
phase. So if we get some good bids
in, we will be coming back to Council
for bid awards on that to finish up
the project.
President Greenbaum: Any comments
or questions? Do you have any idea
as to where we are going to be when
this project is all done? Is it going
to be under budget?
Mr. Prill: We will have a better idea
when we see the bids tomorrow.
Purchase of ARD Property
President Greenbaum: Mr. Prill?
Mr. Prill: I believe this was a follow
up item to a question that Mr. Rattner
had raised with regards to the Mayor’s
plan for funding a possible acquisition
of the project. Is that correct?
President Greenbaum: Yes.
Mr. Prill: I don’t know whether
Council has seen…I did put together
a memo earlier today. Again, I don’t
know if you have had a chance to see
it. It identifies areas that we have
discussed about possibly applying for
funding for this project, if the acquisition
of it were something that the Township
decided to pursue. Those funding sources
could include, in addition to the application
to the Morris County Open Space Committee,
obviously, we would be applying to
the Green Acres program, possibly to
Morris County MUA.
Mr. Prill (Cont’d): Although
the amount of funding that potentially
would be available through the MUA
would not be significant. There are
two other programs that there might
be some opportunity to get funding
for. The first is called the Forest
Legacy Funding Program. This is a federally
funded program where the money is funneled
through the State. Although, realistically,
the viability of securing funding through
this program is probably limited because
there is not a large quantity of funds
available as well as the fact that
there has been an active court case
in progress with regards to this property
and that the development has been approved
and the fact that, with regards to
this whole effort of potentially acquiring
the property, we really have not put
together a strong partnership program
with regards to the application. The
final source of funds that have been
briefly reviewed is a program called
North American Wetlands Conservation
Act. There is funding available in
this program, although the size of
this project is questionable as to
whether it would even be large enough
to qualify for funding under this program
because they deal with large or major
wetland sites. Although there are some
wetlands on this property, we don’t
know whether or not if it is significant
enough to even qualify under this program?
President Greenbaum: Any comments
or questions?
Mrs. Labow: Rick, when you meet on
Friday, who is going to be present?
Mr. Prill: At this point in time,
it will be myself. I don’t know
whether the Mayor is going to be available
to meet?
Mrs. Labow: What about Kathy Murphy?
Mr. Prill: She is on vacation this
week. I don’t believe she is
going to be back in and Sandy Urgo
is going to be at a conference out
of State, so she is not available.
Mrs. Labow: So you are just going
to test the waters, so to speak?
Mr. Prill: It is a preliminary meeting
to find out whether there is any serious
interest on the part of Toll Brothers
to get into a more detailed discussion
about the development.
Mrs. Labow: Would it be appropriate
to have a Councilmember or an attorney
present, Mr. Greenbaum?
President Greenbaum: Not if Mr. Prill
doesn’t want one. It is the Administrations
ball at this point. Have you spoken
to the Mayor about going to the meeting?
Mr. Prill: He was out of town today
so I haven’t had a chance to
talk to him about it.
President Greenbaum: When was the
meeting set up?
Mr. Prill: Last Friday I got it confirmed.
Mr. Rattner: Mount Olive, because
of a lot of different people, has had
one of the best reputations with the
County when it comes to Open Space.
We started with Earl Spino. I believe
that Bernie Guenther served on it.
I served on it for a couple years.
We have always put together a quality
project that made a lot of sense. A
few years ago when Rickland Village,
we will use that name so people don’t
know what we are talking about, fell
through, the Open Space Committee and
through the Planning Board went to
the Freeholders and asked them to change
their policy because we had good plans
and they were done in great detail,
to let the transfer of the money that
they had already provided for that
project, over to the B&H which
they were providing additional funds
on to make that happen. This was a
project and this idea actually came
from the Mayor and what the bottom
line is, is the Mayor threw it out,
came up with it, and even allowed the
grants coordinator to put in an application
when it wasn’t ready for primetime.
The amount that we requested is two
and a half times as much as we have
ever requested before. In past years,
they gave out a total to the whole
County of about $12 million. We were
asking for $5 million. This year was
probably the one year that we probably
had the best chance to get something
like that because what the County did
is all the projects that didn’t
close over the last five or six years
since the program was established,
they put the money back in. So they
had about $25-26 million that they
could give out. So we had a couple
of different things. We had a project
that we think was worthy of it and
the County actually had the money but
you have to be ready to go. The Open
Space Committee requested that the
Mayor be on the site when they did
the site review like they do every
other year, which the Mayor hasn’t
done. So most of the Council has to
go and try to say why the Mayor couldn’t
make it and give the presentation,
to say about the Forest Legacy, we
got $2 million of that on an $8 million
project on the other side of the lake.
We also got another $3 million, I believe,
from Rodney Freilinghuysen. We also
got another $2 million from the Morris
Conservatory. So to avoid 112 houses
and save the mountain ridge, 600 acres
on the back of the lake were saved
because of the work that had been done.
Mr. Rattner: (Cont’d): When we
look at other big projects around,
Mine Hill was just able to close on
a big project there, $10 million, and
was able to get the whole amount of
funding. It was the Canfield Avenue
project, $10 million and they didn’t
have to put any money up. So it is
there and you have to have a plan and
it takes a lot of work. What happened
this time, I believe, we’ve embarrassed
the Township. It just keeps going on.
When we put in the application, the
Open Space Committee spends a lot of
time doing the research, looking over
the maps, finding out whether it is
worthy, seeing what the development
would do to the property, does it fit
into their plan? Also, they gave up
a Saturday morning to come to the site,
to find out that we really didn’t
have a plan. Nobody even made a call
to Toll Brothers before this. We know
that Kathy Murphy had tried but nobody
wanted to talk to her. Usually, it’s
the Business Administrator or the Mayor.
What happened on this is in a year,
a year in half when the Mayor proposed
it, he did absolutely nothing. We don’t
know whether it would have worked but
what we do know is that project that
we lost in court right along and they
started work because I can see from
the open space trip that we had over
the weekend, a big large area in the
middle of the woods that has already
been cleared. We are talking about
the possibility 400 and some odd units
that could be a whole other school
and we didn’t think it was a
priority. The Administration did not
think it was a priority to move ahead.
So when we talk about different things
that haven’t happened, that is
one. I think we have only a couple
of days to let the Open Space Committee
know that we are pulling the application
because it is not ready to go ahead.
To make sure that the number two property
that we wanted to look at, the Williams
property I think we are calling it,
is our primary concern and also give
them an apology saying that there are
certain issues such as the lawsuits
that were going forward, that we apologize
that we made them go through the work
because I know they are not very happy
with the result of coming out and finding
out that we didn’t have a plan.
That is all I have to say, thank you.
President Greenbaum: I basically heard
the same thing, Steve, from the Morris
County Open Space Committee but notwithstanding
that, it is of such importance to the
Township of Mount Olive that whatever
we can do to see if we can purchase
this property, it should be done. Mr.
Prill, I would suggest that you allow
a Councilmember to be involved in the
process right from the beginning at
this point and if you are so inclined
to let me know and I will make sure
that there is a Councilmember there
so that we are working jointly towards
the possible purchase of that property
or a portion of that property.
Mr. Perkins: Thank you, Mr. President.
I just wanted to make note again. Mr.
Prill, I know you have answered my
email. I advised you appropriately,
that in today’s building economy
which has taken a dramatic down swing
in the past three months, albeit, there
was no excuse for not being there for
the open space meeting. However, any
future negotiations with Toll Brothers,
I believe, needs to be done on a limited
basis. Kara Homes, one of the largest
northeast builders in the United States,
has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
protection. K. Hovnanian, one of the
largest builders in the State of New
Jersey, has any job that is not presently
underway in the State has been withdrawn
as has their application for the Four
Seasons on Route 46 here in Budd Lake.
I have the letter in front of me dated
October 6, 2006, from their attorney
where they have respectively withdrawn
that application. Toll Brother’s
work up at the Morris Chase at this
point has been slow to say the least.
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