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Council Public Meeting - June 26, 2007
The Regular Public
Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was
called to
Order
at 7:29
pm by
Council
President Greenbaum with the Pledge of Allegiance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & MOMENT OF REFLECTION for all
those who have and continue to protect our freedoms and
our way of life.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice
of this meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle.
Notice has been posted at the Municipal Building, 204
Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey
and notices were sent to those requesting the same.
ROLL CALL Present: Mr. Buell, Mr. Rattner, Mrs. Labow,
Mr. Tepper,
Mr. Tobey, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Greenbaum
Absent: None
Also Present: David Scapicchio, Mayor; William Sohl,
Business Administrator;
John Dorsey, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk; Sherry Jenkins,
CFO
TransOptions 2007 Grant presentation
President Greenbaum: First item of business is the TransOptions
2007 Grant presentation. Is that going to be done by you
Mr. Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: That is correct and owing to the somewhat smaller
size audience we have, rather than going to the podium
I’ll stay right here. I had the pleasure of attending
a breakfast hosted by TransOptions, which is short for
Transportation Options, and those folks are looking at
all kinds of ways to alter the mindset and the actual way
we transport and use transportation. This year they began
with a series of four grants, which they had not done before.
Mount Olive is one of the first of four recipients, and
at this point we have a check for $3,000 and I want to
present that to the Mayor.
Mayor Scapicchio: Photo-op.
Mrs. Labow: There you go.
Mr. Sohl: And that is focused on the grant that was applied
for which was for bicycle paths, signage and bicycle racks.
President Greenbaum: Excellent, congratulations. Very
good job.
Mr. Sohl: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Is that it?
Mr. Sohl: That is it.
Mrs. Labow: Do we all have to endorse it?
Questions on Bill List?
President Greenbaum: Anyone have any questions on the
Bill List that haven’t already been presented to
the Administration? Nelson, did you have a chance to review
the Bill List? Did you have questions?
Mr. Nelson Russell, Budd Lake: Yes. $83,000 has been spent
for…
President Greenbaum: $83,000.
Mr. Russell: …to Garden State Engineering for the
Lake, I was just wondering what that was for?
President Greenbaum: Okay, do you have an answer to that
already Mr. Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: Yes, this is money owed to Garden State Engineering.
They have been working without being paid. This is a grant
that goes through us to pay them, and NJ DEP had thrown
no end of roadblocks, most of which made no sense. We got
a rather pleasant letter from them recently indicating
they were releasing the funds, based upon the representations
that have been made and elements of problems that we pointed
out to them where they were essentially putting up roadblocks
after the fact. So the $83 is really a float, $83,000 is
a float for work that’s already accomplished over
seven quarters.
Mr. Russell: Over what period of time?
Mr. Sohl: What was that?
President Greenbaum: “Over what period of time?”
Mr. Sohl: I believe it goes back to 2005.
President Greenbaum: And that relates to work that was
done on the Lake?
Mr. Sohl: It’s a study being done on the Lake, relative
to the Lake water quality to benchmark the Lake.
President Greenbaum: I remember when we retained Garden
State and it was many years ago.
Mr. Sohl: It seems like that.
Mrs. Jenkins: There’s still a big part of the grant
that’s left, this is just a portion of it.
Mrs. Labow: And that was the one…
President Greenbaum: Right. So it’s grant money.
Mrs. Jenkins: Yes, we got in almost $84,000. We’re
paying them what we can.
President Greenbaum: It’s grant money, it’s
not coming out of the general revenue.
Mrs. Labow: Mr. Greenbaum?
President Greenbaum: Yes?
Mrs. Labow: On that subject, I think we had heard several
months ago that they had to start all over because they
weren’t able to finish some of the testing, and they
were going to start it up again.
Mr. Sohl: Well the DEP basically changed horses midstream
and changed what they were asking for. Without going into
a lot of gory detail, I mean, in terms of who’s on
first, bottom line is we broke the log jam and they finally
let loose the money.
Mrs. Labow: And they’re going to start the study
again?
Mr. Sohl: Well it’s been ongoing but GSE had in
fact stopped doing physical work, but that shouldn’t…
Mrs. Labow: Okay, so it’s back up and running?
Mr. Sohl: We’re beyond that now.
Mrs. Labow: Okay good. Then good news.
President Greenbaum: Anyone else?
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
May 8, 2007 PM– All present
May 22, 2007 PM– All present
June 12, 2007 WS – All present
June 12, 2007 CS – All present
June 19, 2007 WS – All present
June 19, 2007 CS – All present
Mrs. Lashway: I have to interrupt here. May 8th has not
been submitted to you for approval, so you’ve got
to remove that. They are not finished.
President Greenbaum: Amend the motion to remove May 8th.
Mrs. Labow: So amended and so moved.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Any questions, deletions or comments?
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
CORRESPONDENCE
RESOLUTIONS / ORDINANCES / CORRESPONDENCE OTHER TOWNS
1. Ordinance received June 11, 2007, from the Township
of Byram regarding Land Use.
2. Resolution received June 15, 2007, from the Township
of Galloway regarding Financial Responsibility for the
Cost of a State Wide Gypsy Moth Control Program.
3. Resolution received June 15, 2007, from the Township
of East Hanover regarding Abbott - Burke Funding.
4. Resolution received June 22, 2007, from the Borough
of Rockaway regarding Abbott – Burke Funding.
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
5. Legislative Bulletin received June 14, 2007, from the
New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Bills
that were enacted as Public Laws of 2006-2007.
6. Letter received June 20, 2007, from the New Jersey
State League of Municipalities regarding the 10th Annual
Elected Officials Hall of Fame.
MUA / MSA
7. Letter received June 11, 2007, from the Musconetcong
Sewerage Authority regarding Amendment to the MSA Wastewater
Management Plan.
DOT / DEP / LOI / HIGHLANDS
8. Letter received June 11, 2007, from the State of New
Jersey, Highlands Water Protection and Planning Council
regarding Comments on the Highlands Draft Regional Master
Plan.
9. Highlands Applicability Determination Application received
June 11, 2007, from Abdel Riad regarding property at Block
6800, Lot 2 (286 U.S. Highway route 206, Mount Olive).
10. Notice received June 15, 2007, from NJ Transit regarding
Public Hearing.
11. Letter received June 15, 2007, from the State of New
Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding
Treatment Works Approval No. 07-0275, International Trade
Center West Block 1036, Lot 2.05 (International Drive).
12. Letter received June 20, 2007, from the State of New
Jersey, Department of Transportation regarding Traffic
near 181 Route 206 South, Flanders.
13. Letter received June 21, 2007, from the State of New
Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding
No further action letter and covenant not to sue for Block
7702, Lot 31 (8 Wildwood Avenue).
UTILITIES
14. Letter received April 2, 2007, from Jersey Central
Power and Light regarding over-billing of electric meter.
15. Letter received June 11, 2007, from Kelly & Ward,
LLC regarding United Telephone Company of New Jersey, Inc. – Petition
to continue to use public rights-of-way.
MISC
16. E-mail received June 13, 2007, from the National League
of Cities regarding 2007 City Showcase Application Deadline.
17. E-mail received June 14, 2007, from the National League
of Cities regarding the 15th Annual Leadership Summit in
Chicago on September 27 though the 29th.
18. E-mail received June 15, 2007, from Susan Pinto regarding
PARIS funding.
COAH
19. Letter received June 14, 2007, from the State of New
Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding
Appellate Division’s decision affected COAH’s
Third Round rules and Methodology.
LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
20. E-mail received June 8, 2007, from Congressman Frelinghuysen
regarding Meth Workshop, Picatinny Change of Command, Passport
Regulations Temporarily Eased, Study: Scores Improved Since
21, Enactment of No Child Left Behind, House Approves Scholarship
Database, Afghanistan Freedom and Security Support Act
of 2007, and Congress to China: Condemn Darfur Atrocities.
21. E-mail received June 15, 2007, from Congressman Frelinghuysen
regarding Military Construction / Quality of Life Funding
Passes House, Homeland Security Funding Approved by House,
House votes to Prevent Caller ID Spoofing, and Frelinghuysen
Welcomes School Groups.
DCA
22. E-mail received June 8, 2007, from the Department
of Community Affairs regarding Symposium: “Investing
in Our Cultural Treasures and Destinations.
TORT
23. Notice of Motion received June 11, 2007, from Richard
Koff, Jr. regarding ARD Mount Olive Associates v. Township
of Mount Olive – Docket No. 006518-2006.
President Greenbaum: There are 23 pieces of Correspondence
on the amended Agenda. Does anyone wish to discuss any
particular piece of Correspondence? Seeing none, we will
move on to Ordinances for Public Hearing.
ORDINANCE FOR PUBLIC HEARING
President Greenbaum: The first Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #24-2007 entitled:
Ord. #24-2007 An Ordinance Amending Chapter 400 Entitled “Land
Use” of the Municipal Code of the Township of Mount
Olive, County of Morris and State of New Jersey to Amend
and Supplement Article IX Entitled “Development Fee
and Affordable Housing Contribution.”
President Greenbaum: Does anyone from the public wish
to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public,
and I ask Mr. Tepper to please move that for approval.
Mr. Tepper: It’s not going to be continued to… oh,
it’s continued to today.
President Greenbaum: Yes it’s continued to today.
Mr. Tepper: Alright. I move that Ordinance #24-2007 be
introduced by title and passed on first reading…
President Greenbaum: No, it’s a Public Hearing.
It’s just moving it for approval and final passage.
Mr. Tepper: That’s the second one? That’s
easy. I move that Ordinance #24-2007 to be approved.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #24-2007 has passed on
second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward
a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #25-2007 entitled:
Ord. #25-2007 Bond Ordinance Providing for Various Water
Capital Improvements in and by the Township of Mount Olive,
in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating $774,000
Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $735,300 Bonds
or Notes of the Township to Finance Part of the Cost Thereof.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone from the public wish
to be heard on this particular ordinance? Seeing
none, I close it to the public, and I ask Mr. Buell to
please move this for adoption.
Mr. Buell: Thank you. I move Ordinance #25-2007.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #25-2007 has passed on
second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward
a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is going to be amended, it’s not amended, but it
has been clarified, Mr. Dorsey?
Mr. Dorsey: Yes, Mr. McGroarty advised that COAH wanted
him to add one word in there. I don’t think it substantially
changes the meaning of the Ordinance, and therefore we
can proceed.
President Greenbaum: Okay, it doesn’t need to be
re-noticed?
Mr. Dorsey: No.
President Greenbaum: So the next Ordinance for Public
Hearing is Ordinance #26-2007 entitled:
Ord. #26-2007 An Ordinance to Amend and Revise Certain
Standards as Set Forth in the R-6 Age-Restricted Residential
District in §400-100 of Chapter 400, Entitled “Land
Use” of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive Consistent
with the Affordable Housing Provisions as Set Forth in §400-85
of this Chapter.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone from the public wish
to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public,
and I ask Mr. Tobey to please move Ordinance #26-2007 for
adoption.
Mr. Tobey: I move Ordinance #26-2007.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #26-2007 has passed on
second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward
a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #27-2007 entitled:
Ord. #27-2007 An Ordinance to Amend §400-85 of Chapter
400, Entitled “Land Use” of the Code of the
Township of Mount Olive in Order to Address the Requirements
of the NJ Council on Affordable Housing Related to the
Township’s Substantive Certification of its Housing
Plan Element and Fair Share Plan.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone from the public wish
to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public,
and I ask Mr. Perkins to please move Ordinance #27-2007
for adoption.
Mr. Perkins: Mr. President I move for adoption and final
passage of Ordinance #27-2007.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: Yes just a question. This all has to do with
certification for round three which we don’t have
yet.
Since we don’t have it, does that mean we can’t… We
don’t have certification for round three, round two
expired, so are we charging time, let’s say like
Chuck McGroarty? Where are we charging that? Because up
to
this point, under the former, under the other two rounds
we were allowed to charge up to 20% of, we could use
20% of our fund for administrative costs, including labor,
professionals and that type of thing.
Mr. Dorsey: I don’t think it’s changed.
Mr. Rattner: So, but without having certification we’re
still charging them?
Mr. Dorsey: We’re doing all of this…
Mr. Tepper: It’s proceeding for certification, still.
Mr. Rattner: But, when we were certified, we could actually
charge this time. Can we, I’m just asking, are we
not charging this time now because we don’t have
a current certification?
Mrs. Jenkins: We haven’t charged anything right
now to the Affordable Housing Trust for that type of work,
at this point we haven’t. My understanding is that
there has to be a spending plan in place before anything
can be charged there.
Mr. Rattner: Didn’t we have a spending plan for
round two?
Mrs. Jenkins: I don’t believe so.
Mr. Tepper: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Yes we did.
Mrs. Jenkins: Did we have one?
Mr. Tepper: For number two we did, for three we had submitted
two weeks before they…
Mr. Rattner: I know what happened there that’s why
I’m just asking that if we were charging against
it so that it wasn’t coming out of our budget through
round two… The question is now that we’re in
this limbo, does that mean that we have no place to charge
it because we don’t have certification? And I think
I heard the answer is, “yes” we are not charging
it because we don’t have certification.
Mr. Tepper: I would argue that we do have it because we’ve
submitted and it’s up to the State which is on hold
because of the court case. Right now, there is no one that
has approved these three other than the two towns that
had submitted prior to the deadline.
Mr. Rattner: That’s what I’m asking, I just
want to know whether we’re charging them into our
budget, or we’re charging it against the COAH fund.
President Greenbaum: I don’t think that anyone has
the answer that’s sitting here tonight, and it’s
not relevant to passing... I’m not saying it’s
not relevant, I’m saying it’s not relevant
to…
Mr. Rattner: Well it was included in this Ordinance, that
says that we can charge 20%, up to 20% of the account.
Mrs. Jenkins: We haven’t charged anything to date.
I know that Catherine is keeping track of those expenses.
She was waiting for something in order for us to be able
to transfer the money over.
Mr. Rattner: Yes I would think that we have to get approval,
and I was just curious whether now it’s eating up
our general fund, that’s all.
President Greenbaum: Any other questions or comments?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #27-2007 has passed on
second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward
a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law. The next Ordinance for Public Hearing
is Ordinance #28-2007 entitled:
Ord. #28-2007 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
to Amend and Supplement Chapter 4 Entitled Administrative
Code, Article VII Entitled Department of Budget and Financial
Operation and Article XI, Entitled Budget, Purchasing and
Expenditure Procedures.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone from the public wish
to be heard on this particular ordinance? Seeing none,
I close it to the public. I ask Mr. Rattner to please move
this ordinance.
Mr. Rattner: Thank you Mr. President. I move for adoption
and final passage of Ordinance #28-2007.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any Council discussion?
Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #28-2007 has passed on
second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward
a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption
as required by law.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – 2nd reading July
10, 2007
President Greenbaum: The first ordinance for first reading,
second reading to be July 10th, 2007 is Ordinance #29-2007
entitled:
Ord. #29-2007 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
to Repeal Section 196-73 Entitled “Charges” Subsection
B and Correct a Type in “Note” in Subsection
As.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner, do you want to move
that please?
Mr. Rattner: Thank you very much Mr. President. I move
that Ordinance #29-2007 be introduced by title and
passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on July
10th, 2007, at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building,
204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Budd Lake, New Jersey, for
public hearing, consideration of second reading
and passage of said ordinance and that the Clerk be directed
to publish, post and make available said ordinance
in accordance with the requirements of the law.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered
to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council
and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will
be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions
except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements
that may be offered. If one or more Council member requests,
any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be
removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Closing Bridle Lane on July 28,
2007, 1 P.M. Until 11 P.M., Center Street between Spring Street and Sandshore
Road on July 14, 2007
with a raindate of July 28, 2007 from 1 P.M. TO 12 A.M. and Hillery Drive between
Devonshire Terrace and Harwich Street on July 4, 2007, from noon to 9 P.M.
for the purpose of Holding Block Parties.
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive in Support of Senate Bill 135/Assembly Bill
785 as they Pertain to Overcrowding of Certain Dwelling
Units.
3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive in Support of State Legislation to Amend
the Abbott-Burke Funding to Streamline Administration of
a More Thorough and Efficient Education Throughout the
State of New Jersey.
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing Payment in Connection with the
Water Franchise Escrow Agreement.
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Acknowledging and Approving a Start-up Fee
Contract Element as Part of the Overall Fleet Maintenance
Contract with Penske.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone wish to have any of the
five removed and put on Non Consent? Mr. Buell?
Mr. Buell: Number 1.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: No I’m fine.
President Greenbaum: Any others? Okay, Mr. Tepper do you
want to move two through five, please?
Mr. Tepper: I move Consent Resolutions two through five
for approval.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there anyone
from the public that wishes to be heard on Consent Resolutions
two through five?
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Seeing none, is there any Council
comment? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
President Greenbaum: We’re up to the Non Consent
Resolutions Agenda…
Mrs. Labow: No.
President Greenbaum: What’s that?
Mrs. Labow: Wrong number one. Oh, you’re going to
put it over…
President Greenbaum: Yes, it’s Non Consent.
Mrs. Labow: Alright, I’m sorry.
President Greenbaum: Did I screw up? Or did you screw
up?
Mrs. Labow: I screwed up I apologize.
President Greenbaum: We’re up to the Non Consent
Resolutions agenda. The first Resolution to be discussed
is Resolution #1.
Mrs. Labow: You did that well. Good job.
President Greenbaum: Thank you.
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Closing Bridle Lane on July 28,
2007, 1 P.M. Until 11 P.M., Center Street between Spring Street and Sandshore
Road on July 14, 2007
with a raindate of July 28, 2007 from 1 P.M. TO 12 A.M. and Hillery Drive between
Devonshire Terrace and Harwich Street on July 4, 2007, from noon to 9 P.M.
for the purpose of Holding Block Parties
President Greenbaum: Mr. Buell do you want to move that please.
Mr. Buell: I move Resolution #1.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Anyone from the
public who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I close it
to the public. Mr. Buell the floor is yours.
Mr. Buell: Yes, maybe just a clarification, closure of
Hillary Drive on July 4th. Hillary Drive extends from Route
206 all the way up through Clover Hill. I think closing
that first 100 yards of it connects Alden Terrace and Glendale,
may cause a problem. It’s only 100 yards, is that
included in the closure of Hillary Drive on that day?
Mrs. Lashway: That’s specifically what Sergeant
Van Ness gave to me.
Mrs. Labow: The whole entire road?
Mr. Sohl: They added two more?
Mayor Scapicchio: Yes, they added two more.
Mr. Sohl: Oh, okay.
Mr. Buell: Yes, they added Center Street and as I said,
Hillary Drive…
President Greenbaum: Hillery runs between 206 and Harwich.
Mr. Buell: It’s the one at the light.
President Greenbaum: It runs between 206 and Harwich and
you know, the Police Department are obviously familiar
with the road, and have given the approval in terms of
its closure. While I understand there may be some inconvenience
to people in terms of having to go around…
Mr. Buell: But it’s also the street at the light
to get people on to Route 206.
President Greenbaum: Yes, except there are alternate ways
to get to 206 besides using Hillary. I mean you can go
out to Flanders Bartley Road, you can take Clover Hill
all the way to the bottom part on the Chester side. President
Greenbaum (cont’d): So the Police Department has
obviously considered that in terms of the recommendation
to allow the closure of the street. Mayor?
Mayor Scapicchio: Well, this is actually something that
has been going on for about the past 15 years.
Mr. Tepper: But they’ve asked for permission this
time.
Mr. Buell: I think they always have.
Mayor Scapicchio: They’ve always asked for it and
always been granted permission.
Mr. Buell: Well as I said, closing off that last 100 yards,
not even 100 yards, it’s three houses.
President Greenbaum: I’m not going to substitute
my judgment for that of the Police Department which have
worked and approved this particular closure. If you feel
that that is inappropriate then your vote should be “no” on
the Resolution. Colleen?
Mrs. Labow: Should we add also in this to include the
noise ordinance since it goes past the noise time?
Mrs. Lashway: They didn’t ask for a waiver.
President Greenbaum: They didn’t ask for a waiver.
Mrs. Labow: Well it seems, if we’re closing the
roads past our noise, and we know it’s going to be
noisy, it just seems…
President Greenbaum: Not necessarily, I don’t imagine
that it’s really going to be an issue.
Mrs. Labow: I don’t think so either.
President Greenbaum: I think that I would leave it as
is.
Mrs. Labow: Yes, okay.
President Greenbaum: Jim, anything further?
Mr. Buell: That’s, you know, I would like to offer
an amendment. Close Hillary Drive for the balance of it,
except for that distance between 206 and Glendale Avenue.
President Greenbaum: Well I assume that’s in the
form of a motion, so we’ll look for a second to that.
Anyone want to offer a second to the motion to amend? The
motion dies without a second. Mr. Tepper, you had something?
Mr. Tepper: Minor semantics. On the revised Ordinance
changed from purpose of “a” Block Parties to
purpose of holding Block Parties, just change “a” to “holding.”
President Greenbaum: That’s fine. I assume that
Mr. Buell, you have no problem with that amendment?
Mr. Buell: No.
President Greenbaum: And who seconded the Resolution?
Colleen?
Mrs. Labow: Yes, no problem
President Greenbaum: Everyone, I assume, all in favor
of the amendment.
AYE
President Greenbaum: All opposed? So the amendment carries,
now we have the amended Resolution on the floor. Any other
comment? Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Tepper, Mr. Tobey, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Perkins,
Mr. Rattner, Mr. Greenbaum voted yes and Mr. Buell voted
no.
6. Resolution of the Mayor and the Township Council of
the Township of Mount Olive Commending Sharon Popelka on
26 Years of Dedicated Service to the Township of Mount
Olive.
Mr. Rattner: Well what we normally do on that is read
the whole thing, so I will do that.
WHEREAS, Sharon Popelka was initially employed by the
Township of Mount Olive on October 8, 1981 as a clerk typist
working in the Police Detective Bureau; and,
WHEREAS, on or about June 26, 1985, Sharon Popelka moved
to the position of the secretary to the Chief of Police,
a position in which she has now served over a long period
of time with success;
WHEREAS, in addition to serving as secretary to the Chief
of Police, she attended the Police Academy and became a
Certified Police Matron; and
WHEREAS, the Township is always pleased and honored that
it has employees who have served the Township continuously
over a very long period of time, bringing both experience
and knowledge and skill to their positions; and
WHEREAS, Sharon Popelka has provided the Township with
outstanding service; loyal and dedicated service for the
last 26 years and now wishes to retire to enjoy her three
granddaughters;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Mayor and Township
Council of the Township of Mount Olive that it wishes to
compliment and to thank Sharon Popelka for her dedicated
service to the Township for the past 26 years; to thank
her for her dedicated service and her skill in fulfilling
the position of secretary to the Chief of Police and wish
her well in her retirement.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Anyone from the public? Seeing none,
I will close it to the public. Any further Council discussion?
Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing the Renewal of Alcoholic Beverage
Licenses for the 2007-2008 Licensing Period.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Tobey, do you want to move that
please?
Mr. Tobey: I move Non Consent Resolution #7 as amended.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Is there anyone
from the public? Any Council Comment? Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Approving and Authorizing an Agreement with
the Township of Washington for the Joint Purchase and Use
of an Asphalt Zipper.
President Greenbaum: Next Resolution is #8. I am going
to pull #8 and put it on for the next Public Meeting that
we have because of issues raised by Mr. Rattner in a two
page memo that was circulating today. I appreciate you
taking such a close look at the memo. I discussed with
Mr. Rattner why it was submitted late in the day. He was
actually out of town for the last few days and didn’t
have an opportunity to get it to the Administration sooner,
but I think many of those issues need to be addressed.
We’ll pick it up again at the next Public Meeting.
The next Resolution for discussion this evening is #9 entitled:
9. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Directing the Administration to Correct
EDU Undercounts and Collect Arrearages Within the B.L.S.S.S.
Mr. Rattner: Mr. President? I think that Resolution, I’ve
heard some comments, we have to pass a Resolution on this
in some regard, but I don’t think it’s ready
for discussion at that time and I would ask that that be
pulled at this time.
President Greenbaum: Okay, we’ll carry that to the
next Public Meeting as well. Resolution #10 entitled:
10. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township
of Mount Olive Authorizing a Settlement in the Matter Entitled
Oakwood Garden Associates, LLC v. Township of Mount Olive
Docket No. MRS-C-000099-06.
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Labow, do you want to move that?
Mrs. Labow: Yes, Mr. President I would like to move Resolution
#10.
Ray Perkins: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Anyone from the
public that wishes to be heard? Seeing none, Mr. Dorsey?
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
Mr. Dorsey: Well, just so you all know, this resolution
resolves our ongoing battle with and Oakwood Gardens, which
there was some angst when I took the position that we shouldn’t
just refund, we shouldn’t just give them the quit
claim deed for $50,000. This week they settled at the number
$47,000. This Resolution authorizes the Mayor and Clerk
to sign the necessary quit claim deed, myself to sign the
stipulation of settlement, and requires it all to be accomplished
within one month, so we should have the check within 30
days.
President Greenbaum: Excellent job Mr. Dorsey.
Mr. Mr. Perkins: Good job, John.
Mrs. Labow: So we’re not going to be landlords?
Mr. Dorsey: Well I told them that they had to settle by
tonight’s meeting, because Mr. Rattner would direct
us to make a petition in court to partition the property.
So we divided up the buildings, and they weren’t
anxious to see that happen.
President Greenbaum: Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
MOTIONS
1. Bill List
President Greenbaum: Mr. Perkins, do you want to move
the Bill List please?
Mr. Perkins: Yes, Mr. President. I move for adoption of
the Bill List.
Mr. Buell: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
Mr. Sohl: I’ll let the Mayor go first, and then
I’ve got a couple.
Stop Sign Exiting Turkey Brook Park
Mayor Scapicchio: Just to update Council on a couple of
things. At the June 19th meeting, the request was to have
some stop signs put over at Turkey Brook Park. If anybody
has driven through there over the last couple of days,
those stop signs are up. You also asked about an “X” walk
path…
Mr. Sohl: Cross walk.
Mayor Scapicchio: …cross walk at the pathway crossing
Turkey Brook to that residential neighborhood, that is
in place. On Friday June 22nd myself, Bill Sohl and several
key people from the Administration participated in a breakfast,
actually sponsored by the Morris County Economic Development
Committee. They had, funded fully by them but on behalf
of the Township, put out a survey to all businesses within
the community that have, that do employ ten or more people,
asking them what they liked about Mount Olive Township,
what they disliked about Mount Olive Township, what we
could do to make Mount Olive Township a little more business
friendly. If they expanded, would they expand here? Those
sorts of questions. We had that breakfast with them, which
went over well on July 16th or 17th. Chris Marra, the Chairman
of the Morris County Economic Development Committee and
Bill Sohl and I will have a meeting. He will give us the
total results of the input that we got back from those
businesses. That should help us and Mount Olive’s
Economic Development Committee in terms of what we may
or may not need to do to help the business community out
here in Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Okay.
Mr. Sohl: And just following up on a couple more things,
several of the Council people tonight attended a session
at the Seward House and I know Colleen and Russ you were
unable to attend.
Mrs. Labow: I was still working.
Mr. Sohl: Kathy asked me to ask you guys if you would
be interested in doing it on Saturday, this Saturday. If
so, just give her a call.
Mrs. Labow: Oh yes, that would be great.
Mr. Tepper: I will be available on Saturday. Excellent.
Thank you.
Mr. Sohl: Also at the last meeting there was brief mention
of whether or not the Township would pursue getting involved
with what is known as Warren - Morris Council of Governments,
which is in essence a shared services entity that seems
to be focused more on the Western part of Morris County
into the Warren County area. I’ve been in touch with
those folks. They’d be more than happy to have us
join. There’s no cost to join. I will be putting
a Resolution before you at the July 10th meeting to codify
that. Lastly, Happy Fourth of July everybody next week.
Mr. Buell: Oh that’s right.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Were you wishing me a
Happy Birthday as well?
Mrs. Labow: Yes, Happy Birthday.
Mr. Tepper: Fireworks?
Mr. Sohl: No fireworks.
President Greenbaum: No fireworks, I’ll be out of
town.
Mrs. Labow: You’re going out of town for your birthday
this year?
Mr. Rattner: For his fireworks.
President Greenbaum: I’ll be in Las Vegas.
Mr. Sohl: Go to Pennsylvania.
Mrs. Labow: Oh, you’re going to do fireworks at…
Mr. Tepper: You can buy them there but you just can’t
bring them back over to the state.
Mr. Sohl: Yeah well you go shoot them off in Pennsylvania.
Mr. Rattner: They’re illegal in PA. They’re
only legal to buy, but for out-of-staters.
President Greenbaum: Okay, let’s move on with the
meeting.
Mr. Sohl: That’s all I have.
OLD BUSINESS
Vandalism at Turkey Brook Park
President Greenbaum: First item is vandalism at Turkey
Brook Park. Bill, have you had an opportunity to speak
to Jim and to Chief Spitzer regarding vandalism at the
Park?
Mr. Sohl: Yes, the feedback that I am getting is that
essentially it’s no worse than any time before. Is
it free of vandalism? No it’s not, but there is no
sudden flare up or a sense that there’s anything
worse than what we’ve seen before.
President Greenbaum: Okay, we were still going to look
into putting in some video cameras up there.
Mr. Sohl: Yes, that’s…I’m not sure.
President Greenbaum: Are we going to get a presentation
on that at some point in time?
Mr. Sohl: We’ll look into that, I haven’t
talked to Scott yet about that.
President Greenbaum: I’m going to list it again
for thirty days. Mrs. Labow, then Mr. Rattner.
Mrs. Labow: Bill, over at the B&H property next to
Morris Chase, Eagle Scout Nicholas Cleirbaut had built
trails over there. He had put up five trail head signs,
put an extensive amount of work into this, and the first
thing that had happened was Toll Brothers had crossed through
the path and ripped it up to put in some lines. They were
told that they were going to fix it, and that never happened
yet. Then in the meantime some vandals had destroyed the
other signs, and about a month ago Toll Brothers had actually
knocked over the last one. So there is vandalism going
on over there.
Mr. Sohl: That’s not vandalism, that’s just…
Mrs. Labow: Some of the signs were vandals. Some of the
kids had ripped up, had destroyed the signs.
Mr. Sohl: That’s part of it, but the Toll Brothers
is just obviously being careless.
Mrs. Labow: Exactly, so is there any way that we can have
that taken care of? The signs?
Mr. Sohl: Give me a description in an e-mail so I know,
rather that trying to capture it all on notes.
Mrs. Labow: Okay, I’ll send it to you.
Mr. Sohl: Thank you.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Okay I’m going to
list thirty days for cameras up at Turkey Brook. Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: Yes, I keep hearing, and I understand what
you’re saying about, you know, the vandalism might
not be that bad, but I know that the dispatch system that
we have in the Police Department we can get something for
the last year, all the calls for vandalism at our Parks.
Can we get a report on it? Just so we can see what kind
of vandalism we’re talking about.
Mr. Sohl: I mean, I asked the Chief, it wasn’t just…
Mr. Rattner: Yes. No…
President Greenbaum: It’s not that. Mr. Rattner’s
making a specific request that Council be updated in terms
of any acts of vandalism at Turkey Brook or Flanders Park.
Mr. Sohl: Okay, fair enough.
Mr. Rattner: Well, we also have this system that we’re
paying for we might as well see if it works.
Mayor Scapicchio: What period of time would you like that?
President Greenbaum: As an ongoing…
Mr. Sohl: Going forward? Or in the past?
Mr. Rattner: No, I’d like to go backwards at least
to find out. Some people say we have a lot …
President Greenbaum: What period of time Steve do you
want?
Mr. Rattner: Let’s just say twelve months, it’s
probably not hard.
Mayor Scapicchio: The last twelve months?
Mr. Rattner: Yes.
Mayor Scapicchio: Okay.
Mrs. Labow: But do we want to stop at just those two Parks?
Or do we want to just…?
Mr. Rattner: All the Parks. We can say all the Parks.
Mrs. Labow: All the public property.
Mr. Sohl: Vandalism on…
Mr. Rattner: On public property.
Mrs. Labow: On public property.
Mr. Tobey: I thought the focus was on Turkey Brook though.
Mr. Sohl: Yes, so did I.
Mrs. Labow: Yes, but there’s other…
President Greenbaum: Yes, well I don’t think that
there’s very much to report on, on the other properties.
Mr. Rattner: Yes, if it’s pressing a couple buttons.
Mr. Sohl: I’m not sure it’s that easy.
Mrs. Labow: Okay.
Mr. Rattner: If it isn’t then we’ll come back
to it because I don’t want him to spend a lot of
time.
Mrs. Labow: Only if it’s easy.
Mr. Sohl: Okay, we don’t need them listening to
tapes over the last…
Green Model
Mr. Tobey: Yes, I came across an article on this topic,
and I know it’s something that we had discussed at
a previous meeting. It’s something that I think we
should consider, and support by Resolution. It’s
good for the community, it’s good for the Township,
it’s good for the environment and quite frankly,
it’s something that I tied in directly to what we’ve
accomplished on the Solid Waste Advisory Committee with
our recycling efforts and all. I think it goes hand in
hand to some extent.
President Greenbaum: I would ask that you contact Mr.
Dorsey to get the appropriate Resolution drafted.
Mrs. Labow: Is that the same Resolution that Ray wanted?
President Greenbaum: Different.
Mrs. Labow: It’s a different kind?
President Greenbaum: Slightly, it’s the same, it
goes along the same lines.
Mrs. Labow: Same concept but a little bit…
President Greenbaum: Ray’s dealt mostly with new
construction, building.
Mrs. Labow: New construction, yes.
President Greenbaum: This is a more general proposition.
Mrs. Labow: The whole Green thing, yes.
President Greenbaum: Alright, Phil. You’ll follow
up with Mr. Dorsey?
Mr. Tobey: Yes.
President Greenbaum: The best time to reach Mr. Dorsey
is at 7:00 in the morning.
Mr. Tobey: He’s usually not up then.
Mr. Rattner: When he was younger it was 6:00 in the morning.
President Greenbaum: Yes that was a couple years ago.
Alright, any other Old Business? Any New Business?
NEW BUSINESS
LEGAL MATTERS
Mr. Dorsey: Yes, let me cover a couple of things. At the
last meeting we discussed the fact that we seemed to all
want a meeting with the BPU relative to the issue of a
franchise with Applied Water, and I had Walter Reinhard
set that up. It’s set for July 10th at 10:00 a.m.
at the BPU Headquarters at, what is it, Gateway II in Newark.
It’s going to be with the head of the Water Division,
and her Chief Counsel, a fellow by the name of Joe Korilos
who has been very helpful. So, Mr. Perkins and I and Mr.
Reinhart are listed. If there is anybody else who wants
to go and wants to be there, let me know and we’ll
get you listed for that field trip. Earlier this week the
ARD / Toll Brothers tax appeal came on before the County
Board. I was a little surprised but Peter Ablis, is it
Ablis?
Mrs. Lashway: Pete Alles.
Mr. Dorsey: Alles, from Toll Brothers came to testify
on behalf of ARD and to attempt to supply information to
undercut our appraisals, but we had their appeal dismissed.
I supposed that ARD is simply going to appeal this dismissal
as well as any other tax matter that’s pending. I
have to tell you that Mr. Rattner did a very good job at
the Dattolo deposition. I couldn’t believe this,
but after six hours of answering questions even Mr. Rattner
got tired. We’ve always assumed he could go on until
midnight, but about 4:00 he really started to get tongue-tied.
He did a great job and he’s got another day to go
so he gets another chance. Lisa has been absolutely great
in this extended litigation. She’s managed to…well
it’s kind of amusing. Mr. Rattner has put in front
of him a form that shows we’re disposing files and
he has Lisa disposing all kinds of litigation files. Of
course it’s not true, but they’re going to
have to wait until tomorrow to find that out when they
take Lisa’s deposition. Lisa’s been great in
terms of research and Mr. Rattner was really good and very,
very helpful. Of course on Oakwood Garden I got your $47,000
but Mr. Rattner denied me a contingency fee. He just keeps
on needling me no matter what I do for the Township, but
you know, such is life. We’ll go on and make it up
some other day. Okay, I think that’s it. So if anyone
else wants to go, anybody else on the Council or the Mayor
wants to go on the 10th let me know so we can have the
right body count.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Council Reports?
COUNCIL REPORTS
Recreation Liaison Report
Mr. Tobey: The Recreation Committee, the boiled down responses,
they are in favor of the signs and they have asked for
the Council to consider it further. That’s the boiled
down situation.
President Greenbaum: Okay, Mr. Dorsey we’re going
to need a Resolution from you.
Mrs. Labow: What format of signs, though? What did they
decide on?
Mr. Tobey: They’re just recommending it to us to
continue considering it.
Mrs. Labow: Oh.
Mr. Buell: But where? One of my concerns is that we are
talking Turkey Brook, Flanders, Dan Jordan, Russ Nagle.
Mr. Tobey: The discussion was simply on Russ Nagle, and
that’s what we were waiting on a recommendation from
them, and they provided the recommendation.
President Greenbaum: I think that I’m going to ask
Mr. Dorsey to prepare a Resolution that will allow for
signs to be placed on all fields, because you cannot just
put them on one field. So, all fields to be approved prior
to placement, prior to, by buildings and grounds in terms
of conformity with…I don’t know what. I’ll
ask Mr. Dorsey to prepare something so that the signs are
of uniform size and color.
Mr. Tepper: There was a proposal put together two years
back to the Recreation Committee that recommended the dimensions
and what they would look like.
President Greenbaum: Can you get that to Mr. Dorsey?
Mr. Tepper: We’ll find out.
Mr. Tobey: Excuse me, that was recently distributed. It
was brought back and I believe everybody, correct me if
I’m wrong, got copies of that e-mail where it was
sent out. It was specific dimensions, it was controlled
so to speak and that’s why the Committee said, you
know what, there’s some safeguards to it. We recommend
it, and consider it further.
President Greenbaum: Well, we’re going to do it
for all of the different facilities, sporting facilities
that we have and it’s going to be on for Workshop.
Mr. Sohl: Phil would you provide a copy to John?
Mr. Tobey: Sure.
President Greenbaum: Just get it to John. I don’t
think we need further discussion on this because we’re
not by any means approving this, except to put it on for
further discussion at the next Workshop. Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: I think the Administration has to talk to
some of their department heads because looking at the different
fields, I believe the baseball fields at Turkey Brook have
windscreens which would make it impossible, or would damage
it to try to put signs on the fence because of the way
they’re put on. So I think part of what they have
to do is sit down with their buildings and grounds and
whoever has to and see what is workable. There are probably
inappropriate places to put signs, let’s say on the
soccer fields, where it would block the view of the field
from the road, because then there’s security. You
know, there’s a lot of different things like that
and I think that probably the different departments and
the people doing the maintenance would have quite a bit
of input.
President Greenbaum: Well I think it would have to, any
sign that’s being put up would have to be approved
by buildings and grounds in terms of safety, and appropriateness
in light of the facility in which it’s being sought
to be placed.
Mr. Sohl: I’ll have, if this is going to be scheduled
for the July 10th thing…
President Greenbaum: Is July 10th a Workshop?
Mrs. Lashway: Yes, Workshop and Public Meeting.
President Greenbaum: Yes, July 10th.
Mr. Sohl: Then I’ll have Jim Lynch here.
Mr. Rattner: Well I think to have the recommendation,
you can answer the questions but I think when we sit down
we should already have the recommendation…
Mr. Sohl: Well you’ve got the recommendation from
the Baseball Association.
Mr. Rattner: No, it’s from the Administration, that’s
the Advisory.
President Greenbaum: No, it is going to be a Resolution
and it’s going to be on the Workshop so we can, I
agree that Mr. Lynch should be here so that we can get
all of the questions on the floor so that we can get a
Resolution in place that covers all of the issues that
are going to be identified. We can act on it if that’s
what Council wants to do at the Public Meeting on the 17th.
Mr. Sohl: The 10th.
President Greenbaum: No, the 10th is a Workshop.
Mr. Sohl: The 10th is a Public Meeting too.
Mrs. Lashway: No, the 10th is a Workshop and Public Meeting.
President Greenbaum: Oh, we’re not going to be adopting
it on the 17th, on the 10th.
Mr. Sohl: That’s fine.
President Greenbaum: We will discuss it at the Work Shop
on the 10th, and we will place it on the next Public Meeting
subsequent to the 10th…
Mr. Sohl: Which would be the 24th.
President Greenbaum: …in the form where the issues
have been identified because it has not been flushed out
enough at this point to discuss it on the 10th and adopt
it on the 10th. Alright.
Mr. Sohl: No problem.
Mrs. Labow: We’re on summer schedule then too, right?
President Greenbaum: Whenever it is, I mean, there’s
not a rush. You’re talking about a policy decision
here and we’re moving it along in due course. We’ll
discuss it on the 10th, and get it in a form that we can
vote on it so that everyone has had a chance to identify
the issues, and resolve all the issues. If, in fact, all
the issues have not been resolved in the meeting, the Public
Meeting following the 10th, then we’ll carry it to
the next Public Meeting until we get it in a form that
we’re happy with. We only meet once a week, so that’s
the only opportunity we have to flush out the issues. Colleen?
Mrs. Labow: I just want to ask Mr. Tobey did they discuss
who would get the revenues for the signs?
Mr. Tobey: Well that’s one of the things. The revenue
should be directed to the Town, and hopefully the Recreation
Department is going to be the recipient of that, and it’s
going to be additional funds to go out to the various organizations,
so that’s one of the reasons…
President Greenbaum: So rather than to the sporting organizations,
it’s going to go to the Township to be distributed,
to be set aside for use by the Recreation Department?
Mr. Tobey: If that’s…
President Greenbaum: That’s the recommendation?
Are we going to get something in writing from the Recreation
Committee?
Mr. Tepper: I’d like to see that, because that was
not conveyed necessarily by the sporting associations that
that was their logic.
President Greenbaum: Okay, well I’d like to get
something from the Recreation.
Mrs. Labow: Now the next question is does it go into the
Recreation Utility, or to the Recreation Department?
President Greenbaum: Well, it wouldn’t go into the
Recreation Utility because it’s not a, the Recreation
Utility is a collection of fees to be used as against expenses.
It’s not really, we’re not collecting fees
that are directly related to a particular activity. In
other words, it’s not like the ski trip. It should
go to the general budget to be earmarked toward the Recreation
for Recreation use. Mr. Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: Yes, I just ask also if there’s any legal
constraints relative to the signage. What might be allowed
to be on the signs? What might not be allowed on the signs?
President Greenbaum: That’s a whole separate issue.
Mr. Buell: It’s a big issue.
President Greenbaum: It’s going to have to be discussed
at the Work Shop.
Mr. Sohl: Well I agree, but I just wanted to pose that
as an issue that perhaps Mr. Dorsey…
President Greenbaum: I think that once you allow the signs
you’re going down that slippery slope that, you know,
who makes the decision as to what’s offensive? The
Recreation Department?
Mr. Tobey: That’s the purpose of the Work Shop.
There’s a lot of issues that go along with that.
President Greenbaum: I agree. We’ll pick it up on
the 10th. Anything else out of the Recreation Committee?
Mr. Tobey: That’s all.
Board of Health Report
Mrs. Labow: We met on Wednesday and it was a rather regular,
normal meeting. The only issue of concern that did come
up was having trouble getting Oakwood Village to pay us.
We were discussing our options at that point and hopefully
within the next week or so they will have paid for all
of their inspections. That was it.
Mr. Dorsey: Just send it over to me for collection.
Mrs. Labow: Okay, any percentage we have to pay for collection?
Mr. Dorsey: It helps. The recovery would have been $100,000
if Mr. Rattner hadn’t denied me my contingency.
President Greenbaum: Planning Board please.
Mr. Rattner: But what will we net after your fees?
President Greenbaum: Planning Board. We’re still
in the negative, Steve.
Planning Board Report
Mr. Tepper: There were two items that were discussed.
One of which we received the cover sheet to the amendment
to the land use plan elements 2003 Master Plan was presented
to all the members for review. The second was that the
Ordinance Committee presented a proposed Ordinance for
the docks, and that will be forwarded to Council with a
recommendation for approval.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Board of Adjustment, Mr.
Perkins?
Board of Adjustment Liaison Report
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President. Business as usual.
Mr. Hashemi for the Meineke was carried until the 20th
of August.
Open Space Committee Report
Mrs. Labow: We had discussed three possibilities to submit
to the County for our costs for our grants this year. At
the meeting, we did come up with three properties that
we were very happy with and hopefully we can move forward.
There was some research that Kathy Murphy was going to
do before we move forward. Our deadline, I think it’s
the end of, coming up either the beginning of July or the
end of July, so we’re trying to move forward with
that and get that in place. That was about it.
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Buell: No report.
Pride Committee Liaison Report
Mr. Perkins: No report Mr. President.
Board of Education Liaison Report
Mr. Buell: It met last night and the only thing really
of major interest to us was that they had the School Resource
Officers’ report at the Board of Education meeting.
They also presented a partial listing of a questionnaire
that was circulated among the teachers at both the High
School and the Middle School requesting their input as
to the value of the program. The teachers found almost
unanimously that the program was a very beneficial program
and they wanted it to continue. One of the interesting
things that our Police Department is talking about with
the Board of Education, is moving on, is a four hour driver
training program called Live to be 25. Basically they’re
thinking about tying that to the privilege of parking in
the parking lot. It’ll be a four hour program for
the kids, and one hour for parents. Unless they have completed
that they won’t be able to be lotteried in. Other
than that the Board of Education is still looking to measure
this program, measure the value of the program. I think
at some point in time we should also add the report from
the Resource Officers in terms of the program.
President Greenbaum: We did have a report from them several
weeks back.
Mr. Sohl: Yes we did.
President Greenbaum: And you know what, we’re not
really in a position other than through, we’re not
there on a daily basis to evaluate the significance of
the program. It really is a School Board issue, other than
to get the word from the Police Officers who are employees
of the Township. Mr. Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: Yes and today I forwarded to you several e-mails
in a single e-mail with laudatory comments relative to,
from several of the Board of Education members.
President Greenbaum: Yes, but again they’re not
there on a daily basis either. I think that the real…
Mr. Sohl: No, but they’re closest to the feedback.
President Greenbaum: Yes, but the proof is really what
the teachers are seeing from my perspective. What the teachers
and the janitors are seeing.
Mrs. Labow: And the students.
President Greenbaum: And if the feedback from the teachers
is that they are seeing some, the real value of the program
it’s hard to pick a contrary position. Lake Committee,
Mr. Rattner?
Lake/Environment Issues Committee
Mr. Rattner: In relation to the Lake Committee, my frustrations
with the degradation of the Lake both from natural and
unnatural means got the best of me and I made an appointment
with Rodney Frelinghuysen’s legislative office in
Washington trying to get meetings with the EPA. I went
down last Thursday and they’ve agreed that they need
a certain amount of information. His Chief of Staff will
bring what I can put together to the EPA for two things.
One, if there is any damage from silt, runoff or anything
else that the parties responsible Mr. Rattner (cont’d):
pay for reclamation. Secondly is to see if there are any
other areas because most of the areas we used in the past,
the funding is not available since the Raritan River is
such an important water source for both drinking water,
trout production, and so on, and with the Lake being the
headwaters of it. So I don’t know where it’s
going, but when I try something I usually do a shotgun
approach so I figured I’d go drive down there and
try to go to the source. They did spend quite a bit of
time, the better part of the day with me, so they are taking
it seriously. So hopefully that will be another avenue
which we’ll be investigating.
President Greenbaum: Thank you Mr. Rattner. Safety Committee
Mr. Perkins.
Safety Committee Liaison
Mr. Perkins: Yes Mr. President we had a brief meeting
last night. It was only attended by both Flanders and Budd
Lake Fire. The foam is working out well, they’ve
had some experimentation with Type A and Type B foams just
to make sure that they’re coordinated between the
two Squads. I asked about the working relationship with
the Budd Lake First Aid and Rescue Squad, they’re
having some ICS, some Instrument Command Training going
on with Budd Lake Fire as well as Budd Lake Rescue and
First Aid. Other than that the calls have all been answered
without any headaches. That’s it.
Finance Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
President Greenbaum: Are you going to follow up on that
issue that was assigned to the Finance Committee which
was the central purchasing issue?
Mr. Rattner: Yes. Central, or was it also Joint Services?
President Greenbaum: It’s both.
Mr. Rattner: Yes.
Economic Development Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: The meeting was moved to last Saturday. I
was not in town on Saturday and I have not gotten a report
from the Committee. I know they did meet, so I’ll
report on that at the next meeting.
President Greenbaum: Okay, thank you.
Solid Waste Advisory Committee Report
Mrs. Labow: We had to cancel our meeting because Tim Quinn,
last minute, was not available due to family obligations.
We chose to cancel it because he was the key person we
needed to ask questions of, so we’ll be meeting next
month.
Library Board Liaison
Mr. Tepper: Nothing of significance to report.
PUBLIC PORTION
President Greenbaum: Anyone from the public who wishes
to be heard? Do you want to come up to the podium? Again
you just have to state your name and address.
Cheryl Goodwin, 368 Drakestown Road: I read definitions
in the Code prior to last week’s meeting on basements
and cellars which in every other source I’ve read
are considered synonymous terms. The Code definitions in
Mount Olive Code were written in the 1978 Code, and I would
just like to confirm that it was the intention of the Council
to write the definitions in such a way that both the basements
and cellars are mutually exclusive.
President Greenbaum: I don’t understand your questions.
Mrs. Goodwin: Well, I presumed… I read the definition
from Webster’s…
President Greenbaum: Right.
Mrs. Goodwin: …a basement as being partly or wholly
underground. I did, I believe, I alluded to the definition
in the Code of cellar because I believed that there was
a typo and an error in the Code that does date to 1978.
I don’t think that any storey of a home can be both
at least half above ground, and at least half below ground.
I don’t think that’s possible. I don’t
think the ceiling can be more than four feet six inches
above grade and more than, and less than four feet six
inches. I mean these are literally, because of a difference
of one or two words, these definitions that I have, in
one place it’s quoted, “Basement – a
storey before which is below grade, the ceiling of which
is not less than four feet six inches, not less than above
grade.” And the cellar is in the same thing defined, “a
storey of the floor which is below grade, and the ceiling
of which is less than four feet six inches above grade.” So
in one, cellar is defined as being four feet, less than
four, a ceiling less than four feet six inches above grade,
and in another place, and basement is defined as being
the ceiling not less than four feet.
President Greenbaum: Yes.
Mrs. Goodwin: I would like to know if in 1978 in fact,
which is when this came from, as I said when I read them
I presumed there was a typo here and that Mount Olive was
not in some sort of vanguard of, defining them as different
things, and defining them in a mutually exclusive fashion.
President Greenbaum: Are you asking us whether in 1978,
when this was adopted, whether or not it was the intent
of the Council to define the terms?
Mrs. Goodwin: Well I’m asking if it’s the
intent now, because…
President Greenbaum: We don’t… the Ordinance
is what the Ordinance is. Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: This was discussed at the Planning Board meeting
and I know there was some great discussion with Gene as
to what the definitions were, and what the Code was and
I believe that he presented some documents. I would recommend
that if there is any issue, and clarification be required,
that we ask Gene to work through the Planning Board, and
clearly define, and if need be provide a recommendation
to adjust the Code to ensure that we have a clear understanding.
Gene’s opinion was that the Code was met. I know
that you did not necessarily agree with that, but his recommendation
at the Planning Board meeting was that Code had been met.
So I think clarification is necessary in order to make
sure that we all have the same understanding of what words
mean and definitions, but I believe that that is best done
through our Planning Official. So I’d ask, Gene is
already working right now. He’s been told to work
through and look at the Ordinance and make a recommendation
whether we need to have it revised.
President Greenbaum: Does anyone from Council have anything
else to offer on this issue? Mrs. Goodwin we’re going
to ask that this issue be looked at through Gene Buczynski
and the Planning Board. Mr. Tepper, you’ll raise
the distinction that Mrs. Goodwin has brought to our attention,
and to determine whether or not a recommendation needs
to be made to Council to amend the definition included
in the Ordinance.
Mrs. Goodwin: In fact, I think it makes a difference between
whether the homes being constructed next to my property
would have, might have required a variance or not. That’s
a pretty big difference.
President Greenbaum: Can you have someone from the Planning
Board alert Mrs. Goodwin as to when this issue is going
to be addressed at the Planning Board?
Mr. Tepper: Yes. We’ll have Catherine contact her.
President Greenbaum: Thank you.
Mrs. Goodwin: The other issue is that most towns address
maximum number of stories, and Mount Olive has only…
Mr. Tepper: We have 35 feet as the height.
Mrs. Goodwin: Yes, and most towns define a maximum height
and a maximum number of stories is my understanding. The
only allusion to number of stories here is garden apartments
can be a maximum of two stories, and in commercial zones
there’s a reference to buildings of no more than
two stories. I think it would help if Mount Olive followed
this and did, again it makes a difference in terms of the
issue of the homes being put next to us. The only difference
between them being three storey homes and the two storey
homes is one cinderblock wall in the front, and dirt that
has been trucked in from other sites because nothing was
excavated Mrs. Goodwin (cont’d): so none of the dirt
is indigenous to that site. So the only difference is that
one cinderblock wall and dirt brought in from elsewhere,
and you know, that doesn’t…
Mr. Tepper: I believe the discussion that Gene had on
that, disagreed with that. He stated that the grade had
not been changed, and the fact that the front wall is,
it goes back to your definition issue, but if the basement
is
partially underground it doesn’t count as a storey
from the back, and your issue is that if it doesn’t
count from the back it changes the whole thing. It has
to do with the definition and our Planning Official has
told us that it is compliant with the Ordinance as it stands
now.
President Greenbaum: Well, that’s not what Mrs.
Goodwin’s point is though. Mrs. Goodwin’s point
is whether or not it complies with the Ordinance as now
comprised. Does the Ordinance need to be changed so that
this type of situation doesn’t occur again?
Mr. Tepper: That part I’ll agree with, but I think
what Mrs. Goodwin is asking is would it not have required
a variance? We have asked that it be looked at so as to
prevent this from repeating itself, but it is not going
to resolve the situation of the construction right now,
and prevent construction of those homes.
President Greenbaum: No, I think Mrs. Goodwin has already
come to the conclusion that those houses are being built.
When Mrs. Goodwin first came to us she said I have identified
a problem based upon my own personal experiences, and I’d
like to see, and I’m a realist and understand…
Mr. Tepper: Agreed.
President Greenbaum: …that under the circumstances
those houses are getting built but I’m not happy
about it and I’ve been damaged by it. Nonetheless,
let’s take a look and see whether or not the Ordinances
need to be changed. She is now proposing…
Mr. Tepper: That 35 foot was addressed as part of the
same discussion as to how it was defined in the stories
as to being measured.
President Greenbaum: Well, the discussion now has turned
to, do we need to revise the Ordinance to take out the
35 feet and to include, to take it out or to modify it
to include an additional provision which discusses the
amount of stories which can be built on a residential dwelling?
And how do you define stories? That’s the issue that
Mrs. Goodwin is adding at this point.
Mr. Tepper: I understand that. That was also discussed
extensively, and the same issue. Does the definition need
to be clarified to include the number of stories in addition
to the 35 feet? Gene was going to come back with a recommendation
on that as well.
President Greenbaum: Okay.
Mr. Tepper: But I will note that as well.
President Greenbaum: Thank you.
Mrs. Goodwin: You are correct and thank you for clarifying,
but the definitions of basement and cellar really upset
me because I really don’t think Mount Olive intended
for it to be a basement at least half above ground, and
it really does make a difference in this case. Another
topic, there’s two things that I’d like to
say. One is with respect to your change in recycling rules,
that with the paper recycling and being able to mix them
that I think that was a great move. We recycle more than
we put out in garbage, and that actually simplifies life.
I’d also like to say that, at least, I’m not
sure why, with respect to the Engineer, I don’t seem
to get clear answers to whatever, it seems to go off in
other directions. I have to say that everyone else in this
town, the Township Clerk, the Road Department with the
issue at the bottom of our driveway, the Planning and Zoning
Board secretaries and Catherine have all been extremely
helpful and extremely courteous and more than pleasant
and I’d say congratulations to the Township on having
a lot of really excellent workers.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, and I’ll make sure
that you’re alerted as to when this discussion comes
up before the Planning Board. Thank you. Anyone else from
the public who wishes to be heard? Seeing, none I close
it to the public. We’re going to do final Comments,
and then we’re going to go into Executive Session
to discuss the Foote Litigation. Not right now, we’re
going to do final Comments first. Anything tonight, Mrs.
CFO?
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mrs. Jenkins: No.
President Greenbaum: Nothing from Mrs. Jenkins. Mr. Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: No.
President Greenbaum: Mayor?
Mayor Scapicchio: Just one point. At the Dare graduation
that Mr. Perkins and I attended on Saturday morning.
President Greenbaum: Eagle Scout presentations?
Mrs. Labow: Eagle Scout.
Mayor Scapicchio: Eagle Scout, I’m sorry. We spoke
to one of the Mount Olive Police Officers that was there,
who informed us that there are more SLAP workers than SLAP
programs, in terms of workload. They’re actually
looking for projects to work on. First thing that came
to my mind, and I spoke to Bill, was the cleaning up of
that Lake. All we need to do is supply supervision for
the day, and the Sheriff’s Department will supply
the workers.
President Greenbaum: Good deal.
Mayor Scapicchio: So Bill is going to look into that and
try to set that up, probably through the Lake Committee
once he gets back from vacation.
President Greenbaum: Good deal. Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: My only comment would be to congratulate Mr.
Dorsey on resolving Oakwood Village and collecting $47,000.
Mr. Dorsey: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Buell? Despite Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Tepper: In spite of Steve.
Mr. Buell: None tonight.
Mr. Tobey: I’d like to wish everyone an enjoyable
and safe upcoming holiday.
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: I just want to wish everybody a safe and Happy
Fourth of July and wish Council President Greenbaum a very
Happy Birthday, and I’m glad you’re taking
your fireworks out of town this year.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President. I’d like to
congratulate the Mayor for being proactive and looking
at the SLAP to help, hopefully somewhat alleviate the potencies
problem with weeds down at the Lake. It is something that’s
free to us, and the Mayor has seen fit to take advantage
of that. I’d like to congratulate him on that, and
wish everybody a healthy and Happy Fourth of July.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: I stopped by the beach yesterday, it opened
last weekend. It’s in exceptional shape. It looks
better every year, and this year it looks better than it
did last year. So that is in tremendous shape and which
is a credit to the staff. The tour of the Seward House
today, there aren’t too many government projects
that you can say, “Gee that looks better than I expected,” and
we got more value than we expected, than what I expected
to see. The amount of work, both with the people that we
had a contract with and our own people, I think is extraordinary.
The House just looks so different. It now looks like it’s
something that can be accomplished, where I think last
year when people saw the condition of the House, they were
saying, “This thing looks like it could come down
at any second.” I think that’s really through
the Administration with the Historic Society, Kathy Murphy,
they are really doing a phenomenal job on something that
could be a gem in the future.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Mr. Dorsey, anything?
Mr. Dorsey: No, I wish everyone a Happy Fourth of July.
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Lashway?
Mrs. Lashway: Happy Fourth of July.
President Greenbaum: Okay, I don’t have anything
this evening. I’m going to ask Mr. Perkins to please
make a motion to go into executive session to discuss the
Foote Litigation.
Mr. Perkins: According to Sections 7 & 8 of the Open
Public Meetings Act, I make a motion that we move into
Executive Session for the purpose of discussing Foote Litigation
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Rattner: Second.
AYE
Executive Session – Foote Litigation
ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made and seconded, all in favor and none opposed,
the meeting was adjourned at 7:59 pm.
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Robert J. Greenbaum, Council President
I, LISA M. LASHWAY, Township Clerk of the Township of
Mount Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes
is a true and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a
legally convened meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council
duly held on August 7, 2007.
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Lisa M. Lashway, Township Clerk
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